An Atheist Who Doesn't Think An Atheist Should Be President

S.E. Cupp, conservative pundit, Glen Beck follower, new MSNBC host, and self professed Atheist has just said one of the most mind numbingly ridiculous things that an Atheist could say.  in a discussion about Mitt Romney's religion, she was asked what if he were an Atheist?  her response was something that i can't imagine any other Atheist in the world stating:

"“And you know what? I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever,”

wait, what????  she added:

“Because I do not think that someone who represents 5 to 10 percent of the population should be representing and thinking that everyone else in the world is crazy, but me,”

ok, i may be using my brain too much, but isn't the Mormon population much less than 5% here in the US?  i'll let her finish:

“The other part of it — I like that there is a check, OK? That there‘s a person in the office that doesn’t think he’s bigger than the state,” she continued. “I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here… Atheists don’t have that.”

really?  you like that the leader of the Free World thinks he is communicating with a being that you know doesn't even exist?  look, we all get over the fact that most people truly believe in a God, and some even think they talk to the big Guy, but that idea is something that gives most Atheists the shivers (or the willies, or the heebie jeebies).  and that's when ordinary people do it.  when the POTUS gets advice from a non-existent entity, we Atheist get concerned. 

and it may never become an issue.  perhaps our Christian President's of the past have simply paid God lip service.  perhaps they have never taken advice from their imaginary friend, although one wonders about GWB.  but as an Atheist, this is one of our primary concerns with Religion in the Government.  and here is Ms. Cupp, an Atheist, stating that she wants a Religious person in charge.  worse yet, she doesn't want someone who relies on reason, logic, and evidence to be elected President? 

her rationale is clearly faulty.  just because someone is an Atheist doesn't mean that they think they are bigger than the state.  where did that even come from?  does she believe herself to be bigger than the state?  maybe she's projecting her own gigantic ego on other Atheists.  maybe she's hung around the GOP Beckbot Religious crowd too long and has started to believe their bullshit.  and i hate to go here, because i don't like to get into other people's minds, but it must be asked - maybe she's not really an Atheist. 

finally, she thinks that all Atheists think religious people are crazy, hence they can't properly govern all the people.  while this is true for some Atheists, most seem to think that they are unfortunate to have been given their Religious life, at least the fundamentalists.  regardless, don't all different Religions have this element to it?  certainly Evangelical Christians think that Mormons are crazy.  i don't know what Mormons believe, but since their doctrine is far different from the other Christian beliefs, is it unreasonable to think that many Mormons feel that all other sects of Christianity are crazy?  one thing we do know is that all forms of Christianity think that Islam is crazy. 

S.E. Cupp has failed the test.  she gets an F minus for her comment.  many people call her smart, and perhaps that is the case, but she fails to use even the most basic form of logic in her statements here.  and as a result, i must question her motive for her argument. 

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Greg, i'm also a "troll" over at the Blaze.  i'm PHILLY ATHEIST.  you? 

"We're doomed if smart people can't be elected because they're a tiny portion of our society."

too true. 

Wow, small world. You sir, deserve a medal for persistance (and perhaps also a bath)


I have to say I am am impressed with the effort you and a few others have shown.  Just that amount of chaos has inspired me to suggest some sort of flash mob attack for the next big story on theblaze. I'm sure if we totally skewed the next poll it would be hysterically funny.

I am Grubmeister on theblaze. Honestly, I haven't done much troll posting before so I have mixed feelings about it. Baiting the natives is sometimes as easy as digging a hole and watching them fall in. Other times you run into those who regard any and all scripture as fact. There is no argument that will muddy their water. I find it depressing when I see it and sometimes lose a bit of my composure. I sometimes feel as if I'm still trying to find my voice under combat conditions.

Keep up the good work and I'll see you there.


I have to be careful what I say, and to whom, in my job. I can only probe so deep before I am looked upon with suspicion. I can't say anyone has come right out and said they despised Obama because of his race. I can say I suspect as much though. The degree of vitriol I've witnessed is beyond what is justified, especially for a president who has worked to continue so many of the Bush policies.

I do think there are special circumstances that explain some of it though. Not to point fingers but I believe we've increased overspending to the point where we are printing new money to cover it up. The latest recession/depression means the sitting president gets all the blame, especially if your guy lost. It's easy to take potshots when there is no way to quantitatively prove the stimulus alleviated problems with the economy.

Being a black president isn't going to be a neutral attribute for a couple of generations for a good portion of our society. It's a hard issue to deal with or even evaluate. Any person with even a marginal intelligence knows they can mask racism by blaming every other problem on the president. I would be thoroughly disgusted if I were to find the current intransigence being displayed by the republicans were based more on race than everyday politics.

There's positive racism too.  There is NO chance that a white person with Obama's resume (not even a full term in the Senate) could be elected President. He's the first Affirmative Action President.

But yes, I believe there are many people in this country who cannot stomach the notion of a black man, whatever his provenance, in the White (get it?) House.

Greg, i guess you're familiar with my work over there.  i'm fairly notorious from what i can gather.  i really don't think that when i respond to a comment over there that it will change the commenter's mind.  i try to comment on the most absurd claims, hoping that a reasonable Believer will see which side makes the most sense.  i have no idea if that happens, but it's my goal.  sometimes i do some baiting, picking a particular line of comment that i know will generate the types of ridiculous responses i'm looking for.  surprisingly, there are some very nice and reasonable people who comment on the articles, but they are very few and far between, right? 

Pat, it can be awfully frustrating can't it?  since my mother has now embraced that idiology, i've had a hard time thinking about her in a positive light.  it's difficult to rationalize.  were she not my mother i most likely wouldn't think very highly of her.  that's a hard thing to come to grips with.  i try to remember that she is being deliberately influenced and that she is still the same tolerant and loving person that i remember from my youth.  i think it's not her fault. 

as far as your Obama comment i couldn't agree more.  i'm a white person and can't even imagine being worried that white people will some day be a minority in America.  who cares?  they care - A LOT. 

re: Anyone but Obama-ites: My disdain for Bush was fairly complete but I never produced a violent spray of spittle talking about him. I absolutely believe racism plays a big role.  

Thank you trolls for spreading the good word. Keep it up!

 ....a rocky place where our logic can find no purchase...   ....taunting the hillbillies is a guilty pleasure I can't seem to overcome.


yeah, i liked that part too.  it's a fitting description if you've dared to venture into the scary places on the internet, a la the Blaze or 

There is no logic there.

Ok, how does she explain Mitt Romney as a Mormon he only represents  only 1.7 % of the USA population according to PEW. 

While the unaffiliated are 16% 

ya gotta be kiddn'.. atheists wont kill women (you know like taliban and whatever psychotic w/o education types) or take their rights away hello

but hey.. i'm just a poor boy

ok, after watching this, there is absolutely no fucking way that this woman is an Atheist.  i call bullshit!

I agree with Loren.  I WANT an atheist for the same reason that Pat Tillman wanted one in his foxhole: the person would not be off "in la-la land" - but fully focused on the situation at hand.  Thus, an atheist Prez. can and should be a moral example who bases policy decisions on the Constitution, along with science, reason, law, cost, consequences, and other earthly concerns, without worrying about what the damn Bible says or, worse, what God wants him to do. 

It will be a challenge to govern a nation the majority of which you consider deluded.   She has a point.  The atheist Prez. will have to take a neutral stance on religion: purely a private matter, none of the the government's business.


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