In this Democracy Now interview, Cornel West and Rev. Traci Blackmon say that they and 20 University of Virginia students owed their lives to AntiFascists and Anarchists who protected them from thousands of white supremacists. Police stood aside to let neo-Nazi protestors attack the antiprotestors.
The next day, for example, those 20 of us who were standing, many of them clergy, we would have been crushed like cockroaches if it were not for the anarchists and the antifascists who approached, over 300, 350 antifascists. We just had 20. And we’re singing "This Little light of Mine,"…
The antifascists, and then, crucial, the anarchists, because they saved our lives, actually. We would have been completely crushed, and I’ll never forget that. [emphasis mine]
Demonizing is coming pretty hot and heavy from both directions. I feel more from left than right. But it's all opinion and not something that can be easily quantified or put into statistics. Hate is an equal opportunity offender. It comes from both sides.
Well, play it out for me. Fill in the blanks for me. What future are you predicting here? If fearless truth tellers, freedom fighters, and anti-fascists like you and Ruth and some others here don't stand up to this onslaught of right wing madness, please, tell me what fate awaits? Do you really expect Charlottesville writ large, KKK and Nazis marching through the streets in mass numbers in every city? Get real. The radical racist right is a kooky fringe and is only scary because social justice warriors like you guys insist it must be.
Jerry, do you extend your "both sides" moral equivalency argument to demonizing from religionists and from Atheists? That's another right/left conflict. Do we "demonize" believers to the same extent that they demonize us? Are all of the Atheist tax free properties and Atheist-indoctrination tax-supported schools an equal burden to tax payers as that of the religions combined?
Demonizing can be quantified. Language can be analyzed. Repressive laws can be compared. Is there a huge battle against Atheists who refuse to bake wedding cakes for religious people on anti-theist ethics grounds?
Ruth I see nothing similar in this situation in your analogy, but analogies in general are tricky and hard to get right. Atheists demonize Christians but have no power to silence or intimidate Christians, Christians demonize atheists but have TREMENDOUS power to silence and intimidate atheists. Why do you find that similar to my contention that both wanna-be white supremeisist assholes and antifa shut-your-mouth-o-we'll-shut-it-for-you assholes are about the same. Please explain.
"Antifascists don't want to be out in the street fighting nazis." Yeah, 3 million years of evolution has programed young human males to lay around smoking weed and cleaning their apartments. Don't fool yourselves, there is a perfectly normal and healthy exertion of testosterone being ejaculated in all this, wrapped in a layer of heroic self-righteousness and mindless group-think. Like I said earlier, the best thing that ever happened to antifa was Charlottesville, because they got to go after actual fascists rather than the usual target of speakers whose opinions they disagree with and want to violently suppress.