And Now, for Something Totally New in Televangelism - Televangelist pastor accused of forcing vasectomies and abortions on church members

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Former members of Grace Cathedral in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio have accused church leader and televangelist Ernest Angley of demanding they have abortions or vasectomies, and that he would both engage in and turn a blind eye to sexual abuse in the church.

Over 20 former members of Angley’s congregation spoke with the Akron Beacon Journal in its six-part series on various allegations made against the 93-year-old preacher. Former members said he pushed vasectomies and abortions, and that he would personally examine “the genitals of the male parishioners before and after their [vasectomy] surgeries,” the Beacon Journal wrote.

Others said Angley regularly counseled women to have abortions, going so far as to say to one woman in his congregation that she should think of her fetus as “a tumor,” said former Grace member Angelia Oborne. “He doesn’t want people to have kids because it would take their time and money away from [the church],” Mulkey said. “He really forced people into abortions through scare tactics, as if he were a medical doctor. It turns my stomach.”

“I’m not a homosexual. God wouldn’t use a homosexual like he uses me. He calls me his prophet, and indeed I am,” Angley explained. “They called Jesus a homosexual, did you know that? And still do. Because he was with men.”

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I have no words. lol

Words don't suffice.

This guy is figuratively in my back yard, a brief drive down I-77.  I've seen him on either Merv Griffin or Mike Douglas back in the day, and he was freaky back then as it was.  The ONLY good I see in Angley coming out like this is that it's one more reason for the sheep to distrust their shepherd.

Maybe some of them will actually wake up.  One can hope.

After all the revelations about Tammy Faye and Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, Eddie Long, and the king of cheats, the fraud de la fraud, Pat Robertson, does one get surprised anymore? I don't.

It's like when you let the first irrationality in, Pat.  Even to a slightly informed observer, any madness which follows it should seem like an automatic.  It sure does to us.

But then we're not the ones drowning in the Kool-Aid.

You're absolutely correct about the view from the inside vs. the view from the rational world. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that the followers themselves are surprised when this happens. It's like talking to a patient in a burn ward and asking, "Well, what did you think would happen when you lit that match over the gas tank to see if it was full?"

Just when you think you have heard it all.
What a hold he had on people. He inappropriately touched an associate oastor fir 7 years? And the guy didn't think there was something odd about that?

Those cowardly theists use the word "force" in a way that dilutes it and insults the poor people who have truly experienced force. Like say, South Sudan. 

That being said, why am I not surprised?! Sheep want to be herded and the wolf wants to eat. It's the most base and carnal of instincts. I truly don't feel sorry for his congregation one iota. 

I'm with you - zero sympathy for anyone dumb enough to go along with this jackass. Although when you see something like this, it is a bit hard not to conclude that stupidity is a potent force of nature.

Yes. The forces of nature are earth, water, wind, fire, and the stupid. In this case, there was a vortex of stupid - a stupnado. Impossible to resist.

I've cited this elsewhere, but Albert Einstein's pronouncement keeps haunting me:

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.

How cool!  A truly bottomless resource, that we can't deplete and can't wear out!  Now if only there was a way to harness stupidity for the good of humanity.




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