Atheists are a small minority in the U.S.  Advocates of gun control might be a minority in America as well. In light of the recent shootings in Aurora I am curious as to how atheists in this network view the lack of gun restrictions.  There are probably divergent views.

I have trouble believing that both presidential candidates are steering away from any call for reform after the horrific mass shooting. In my opinion it is insane to allow citizens access to assault weapons that can kill scores of people in a few minutes.  It was even more shocking to hear on a news show that a family had to raise money to pay for the immense hospital bills for one of the victims while they were already crippled with medical bills from the mothers fight with breast cancer.

As a Canadian I came to stand with my U.S brothers for the reason rally and freedom from religion.  I would be willing to come down to the capitol and march for two other important causes.  Gun control and universal health care.

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Couldn't resist including this perceived deport-able offense for a fellow Canadian - funny bit called Cold Dead Hands

Still thinking of this discussion a couple of years later. My solution in a letter to the editor discussing our upcoming provincial election.

The average citizen does not need assault weapons. If you argue that the constitution gives you a right to have them, you might as well be argueing that you have a right to own an atomic bomb. I'm a former gun enthusiast, but more needs to be done here because of America's gun violence. Why is it not done? Votes. The man running for office who wants to curb guns and gun violence will not get the votes. That's plain and simple.

I do see headlines that I agree with. The most recent from St. Louis, Mo. involves an apparent home invasion. The 17 year old daughter had went outside for something to apparently end up being used as a shield by 2 armed men who forced her back inside. The homeowners had guns. The end result was that one of the invaders was killed at the scene, and the other one is in the hospital now. This situation could have went wrong, but I applaud this homeowner. He had every right to shoot them and defend his family and property.

Even so, gun attitudes in America has changed. Back when JFK was murdered a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald emerged in which he was holding weapons and a left wing newspaper. This fact alone almost sealed his guilt at the time. Today such things are commonplace, only the politics has changed. Right wing gun nuts are everywhere. Everything has gotten out of hand.

We may be atheists according to religion but our parents are Jewish and we are
Still jewish according to adolf's definition, so keep this in mind before nazis (or the ku klux clan or the Islamic state or any of the other terrorist or hate groups or even any random common crook) comes to your door or breaks into your house.

There's lots of atheist emoting on gun control.

If anyone finds any atheist reasoning, please post it.

Am I in some sort of weird dream.  How can this even be an issue in any civilized country?

The NRA versus Pediatricians - Docs Vs Glocks

Russell, in the gun control debate, who uses reason?

It's fear versus fear.

Actually, there should be the whole range of attitudes towards gun control as religious or non-religious beliefs are non-sequitur to gun control.

Personally I used to enjoy shooting, both single shot and semi-automatic, though in the army cadets I loved being a machine gunner, but I see no use for such weapons within civilian settings.

I also don't see any reason for carrying personal firearms. 

Perhaps in some jobs and societies such personal protection may be deemed necessary.

But it all boils down to a rational consideration of circumstances.

Though I'm against the form of in their faces public display of gun ownership that is occurring in the U.S.

Where people are being confronted by weapon carrying gun enthusiasts in public places.

In that case I think such gun owners come from scraping the bottom of the rational intelligence barrel. 

Such idiotic enthusiasts really should have their guns taken from them and only let them masturbate over pictures of guns, but should never be allowed to handle real weapons.

I applaud Bill Maher's commentary on this topic:

There should be a rationality test for personal gun ownership and a high rationality bar that owners must leap over in order to be approved for gun ownership, otherwise, expect more stupidity and accidents from unintelligent gun handling and ownership.

How about instead of having the same tired arguement, we look for an actual solution? Whenever a shooting occurs the gun control crowd goes ape shit. "gun control! gun control!" and the gun loving crowd responds "over my corpse!" Same damn arguement every time.
How about trying a new approach to head off mass shootings? Here are a few ideas no one has mentioned.
1.If a person's family and friends call the police and say that they are a threat then place them under 24 hour surveillance.
2. Fix our 17th century mental health system.
3. Teach people how to act in the event of a shooting. The 911 attackers held up 2 planes full of people with BOX KNIVES because no one had the presence of mind to pick up thier sampsonite and kick some ass. The same is true during a shooting. Screaming and pissing yourself is NOT a valid self-defense plan.
4. Take the police that we are currently wasting on the drug war and have them hang out in schools to prevent this kind of stuff.
There's four and I'm just a college dropout. Surely others have even better ideas. Let's stop having the same boring arguement.

Travis, I like your ideas.  I especially like #3.  I've often wondered why some of those passengers did not act against BOX KNIVES!

Travis, you are not JUST a college dropout.

You've done what some college graduates here have been unable to do and will remain unable to do.

Thank you.

Travis, whenever a problem becomes known, a strategy needs to begin to meet the challenge. I agree with you entirely, constant stating the problem gets us nowhere. Accusations, blaming, criticizing, complaints, making charges, and allegations all indicate a problem exists and one can either repeat it over and over, or search for options of things to do, or go into a cave and wallow in misery. 

Some words have a partner, i.e., for Pavlov's dogs it was bell>salivate; in a theater, the shout, "Fire!"> running toward exits; the first snow of winter>getting out the snow shovels. 

A Problem arises > think of Goals > Options > Plans > Action > Evaluate. 



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