Atheists are a small minority in the U.S.  Advocates of gun control might be a minority in America as well. In light of the recent shootings in Aurora I am curious as to how atheists in this network view the lack of gun restrictions.  There are probably divergent views.

I have trouble believing that both presidential candidates are steering away from any call for reform after the horrific mass shooting. In my opinion it is insane to allow citizens access to assault weapons that can kill scores of people in a few minutes.  It was even more shocking to hear on a news show that a family had to raise money to pay for the immense hospital bills for one of the victims while they were already crippled with medical bills from the mothers fight with breast cancer.

As a Canadian I came to stand with my U.S brothers for the reason rally and freedom from religion.  I would be willing to come down to the capitol and march for two other important causes.  Gun control and universal health care.

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It's called "survival of the fittest".  But we are not the "aggressors".  We won Cuba, and the Philippines during the Spanish/American war.  We released them.  Russia is still capturing land.  Crimea is their latest acquisition last year.

Donald L. Engel,

I agrue it isn't survival of the fittist in the darwinian sense unless someone thinks  there is inbread power with royalty.

A lot of people do. Fortunately the French Revolution cured some of that - More to go to stop tyriny.


I do mean in the Darwinian sense.  During our past history, we learned that two working against one would have a positive outcome for the two.  Teamwork is better than working alone.  Survival of the fittest includes a gain in intelligence.  We learned to work as a team, and won over our enemies.  Tribes, and then countries evolved.  

Not two,  Multiplicipy helps the specie often outside of tribalism.

I am happy you present your viewpoint and you do not need to ask permission. If I do not agree with you I have the right to say so and we continue as friends. That is what good communication is all about. 

I meant this reply for Chris. 

Russell, what does WOW Six days to start the ban on assault weapons. 

Do you mean WOW, good? or WOW bad?

Well Joan - I started this post in 2012 and volunteered to come down and march with those who were in favor of gun control. I grew up in a country that is not so pro gun that we are comfortable with anyone being able to get semi assault weapons. We also don't tend to ask our politicians running for office if they believe in God.

My fantasy that a lot of atheists who share my perspective on religion, would share my perspective on gun control was dashed as a lot of people first surprised me with support for loose gun controls and then depressed me as countless mass shootings did not have any impact on their positions.

So Wow ... a country that supported the sale of semi assault weapons turned on a dime and banned them after a mass shooting. I like how one former police official told the the NRA to "bugger off". I like how one farmer turned in his weapon saying it worked well in getting rid of animal pests, but the issue is too important for him to keep his weapon.

Ah! Russell, I thought I knew you well enough to know that is your position. Our gun violence is wretched.

America’s unique gun violence problem, explained in 17 maps and cha...

I remembered that you put in the time, effort, and money to come in support of gun control in the US. Things seem to be getting worse, especially in the present political climate here. 

Further thoughts, Joan:

America’s gun violence shouldn’t surprise anyone.

Our highly competitive capitalism, with its “The devil take the hindmost” attitude, is war by another means.

As an evolutionist might say, our capitalism selects for sociopathy.

Russell seems unable to accept that reality. If he doesn’t adjust his idealism, it may become cynicism before it becomes realism.

BTW, the above link to 17 maps doesn’t work on my iPad. I will try it on a PC.

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The U.S. is a colonial warrier nation.    Assault weapons aren't likely to be banned.

If you don't agree with that tell me when in the history was the U.S. not at war or a conflict in  parts of the world since its "founding?"




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