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Atheistic Satanists

Do any members identify yourselves as Satanists? Do any members identify with atheistic Satanism as a valid form of anti-theistic expression? As for those members who listen to black metal and other sub-genres of heavy metal, what is your take on Satanic imagery and allusions?

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Permalink Reply by Irina Uriupina on May 26, 2011 at 2:48pm

I never understood satanism

Any belief system where you are required to worship anything is a religion

I'm reluctant to even learn more about what satanism is, seems to me like some teenage self-assertion stuff))

I laugh every time I see a goat on the throne))))

Permalink Reply by Hambydammit on May 26, 2011 at 4:48pm

Irina, one can be an atheist and a religionist. (See: Buddhism). That is, one can believe in a religion that does not have a god-figure but still has supernatural elements like reincarnation and Karma.

My beef with Satanism is that if Satan is well... what Christians believe him to be, then believing in Satan seems to necessitate belief in God. Since... you know... God created Satan.

Alternatively, if Satan is NOT as described in the Bible, why are we calling it Satan? And if it is an invisible supernatural being in control of things... isn't he a god?

Sooo.... yeah. My brain hurts.

Permalink Reply by dr kellie on May 28, 2011 at 10:25am

I agree. An atheist who believes in satan doesn't make any sense.

Permalink Reply by AgeOfAtheists14 on May 31, 2011 at 5:55am

LOL, she has a valid point there. IMHO the hardcore ones have cartel connections. Satanists love coke. They love out doing everyone and anyone in their way. I've known a couple; straw dog mentalities.

Permalink Reply by Brian Wood on May 26, 2011 at 3:04pm

Satanism is double dumb. There's no god, and there damn sure isn't a secondary figure (created by god). Or are we into Manichaeism and Zoroastrianism?

Permalink Reply by joel farris on May 26, 2011 at 3:23pm

Ya Satanism is stupid and so is all the other religious bullshit.

Permalink Reply by Grace Fitzpatrick on May 28, 2011 at 10:04am

I could never believe there was a devil even when I believed in god. I never got the woo scary feeling from the pentagram. I suppose a person could go around wearing a pentagram or other satanic symbols, but why bother? I guess I just don't really have a need to irate christians with satanic symbols. Just being an atheist seems to seriously aggravate them already.

Permalink Reply by Hambydammit on May 26, 2011 at 4:45pm

Isn't this like a married bachelor? It seems that by definition, an atheist cannot be a satanist.

Permalink Reply by J. D. Brophy on May 26, 2011 at 5:05pm

One could espouse tenets of Satanism as an affront to Christianity, thus, atheistic Satanism. You know, like how Sid Vicious could wear a swastika pin but not be a Nazi? Like an anti-authority gesture.

Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on May 28, 2011 at 10:59am

So you are a reactionary? Taking an anti-authority stance entails granting them that they are indeed the authority. They are nothing but delusional, mistaking fantasy for reality, and engaging them on their own terms only makes you delusional. I'm not even curious what "tenets of Satanism" could be held by an atheist, because your motivations are corrupted. One need not bother taking an "I hate you and everything you think you stand for" approach with others, because that means that you are basing your identity off of what others believe. We as atheists have a rich and deep perspective on the world, one that can be explored on its own merits, without having to take some "woo, I am the shadow to your light", ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd approach.

Permalink Reply by J. D. Brophy on May 28, 2011 at 12:46pm

Not a reactionary. I am interested in correlations between atheists and Satanists. I am just trying to take an unscientific survey, trying to get a reading on the room temperature.

On the other hand, I am forced to react to consensus reality, in which theists are "in authority," constantly.

Also, I am interested in the correlations between atheists and black metal fans and aficionados, since so much black metal is militantly anti-theistic and heavy metal in general so traditionally laden with Satanic allusions and imagery.

Atheists do have a rich, deep perspective. Some of its richness may not be so deep, but it comprises a wide swath. That interests me.

Permalink Reply by Hambydammit on May 31, 2011 at 5:20pm

I don't see how tenets of Satanism are equivalent to atheism. Yes, some of the tenets are in agreement, but that is a matter of correlation, not causation. Nothing in the statement "I do not believe in god(s)" logically precedes any of the tenets of Satanism I'm familiar with.

What you're saying is the equivalent of suggesting that pizza is an ice cream cone since both have wheat in them.