Brother Richard deserves to be paid. A|N deserves support. There should be paid staff.

I have never met Br. Richard, and other than a very small number of emails, have not communicated with him. He may even be pissed at me for starting this topic, I have not discussed it with him. I recently noted this, which I've copied from here.

"As of now, if it wasn't for the $150 bucks we get from Google ads, we would only get about $35 bucks from monthly donations. All of this from a site that gets over 200,000 unique monthly visitors, almost 1,000,000 monthly page views, and is in the top 75,000 most visited sites on the Internet."

What? You gotta be fucking kidding? I felt guilty about the $15.00 monthly that I started via pay pal this summer. This is not tooting my nown horn, I think I should be paying more too. That means that the other 10,000 members are paying a collective fucking $20.00 a month? If every member paid 10 cents a month, it would be $100.00 monthly. If 100 members paid $25 a month, it would be $2,500 monthly.

I realize that incomes are highly variable, and some members don't have a pot to piss in, and everyone has some sort of financial challenge. But is A|N really that unimportant?

OK, Br. Richard, I know you'll be reading this. Time for you to get off your ass, too, and work on how to make this pay. Does Ning not allow pay? That might be an issue. But how about some form of paid membership. Voluntary, so there would still be unpaid membership, because the financially strapped members do contribute in a meaningful way. But some 'bonus' for paid membership. Alternatively, similar bonus for nonpaid roles such as moderator or website development, organizing, outreach. What is the bonus? I'm not sure. Even a fucking A|N coffee cup, A|N button, personal thong verified as worn by Br. Richard, stratified for "silver member" "gold member", "Platinum member", or whatever you want to call it, is better than the special place we get in heaven for "giving" a contribution. The T-shirts are great - but that's selling T-shirts, and doesn't have the same feel as contributing to A|N. Be that as it may, a $365.oo annual membership, $1.00 per day might warrant the Tshirt plus the thong.....

A PBS / NPR -style over-the-internet fundraiser, while annoying, would be an option. Say, a moving banner, or some other function, that briefly describes the role / benefit of membership / contribution, and offering an easy way to do so?

It's not just a matter of paying Br. Richard. Having paid membershipswould allow for functions that would improve the site, advertise, put up cool billboards like other Atheist groups are doing... whatever.

I'm not stuck on any of these ideas. With many intelligent, devoted, active members, we should be able to support the important role of A|N and further the cause of atheism. I want to see Br. Richard drive up in his pink Rolls Royce and a carnation in his lapel, but it would be a start if we at least gave him a dandelion in a coffee cup.

Come on, godless heathens - earn a silver lining for your clouds in heaven. Lets work on getting some dollars flowing.

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"he once said he dresses just like his icon every day. If he can get away with that, he must be well off enough so that people call him eccentric."

lol. I'm not eccentric, I'm INSANE! :)

Thank you very much for your contribution!
I am Porangi

tēnā koe - I hope that's right.
Thank you. But I know how you feel I was laid off since Nov 2008...and just now finally landing a job its Sep 2009 so that should tell you something.
Group hug.

I'm doing what drives me nuts that other people do. Chastise me on my comment wall, or in a private message, please. I'm commenting without reading all the comments.

For the record, I agree: Brother Richard should be paid.

There should be paid staff.

Great idea! I'm only partially being sarcastic, because I know there are other people on the site who could use the cash, too. First, let's get Richard paid.

Then, maybe we could have a mud-wrestling match among all the volunteers (other than Richard) to see who gets paid, and who doesn't. We could sell tickets, popcorn, commemorative trinkets, etc... I must warn other volunteers though, that I have a leg up on you all, because I am a Lucha Libre fan.
Yes just post onto my page how much you donated. Daniel and I will both match it up to a total of $750 each. So if you donate $25 both Daniel and I will donate $25.
Thanks Jean Marie! I think many people just aren't aware of the situation.
Thanks m'Lord - a fabulous effort! But what else would we expect from a right royal personnage! ;-) Sincerely, thank you!
I give $10 a month via pay pal and have since I joined this site. Who's giving the other $10 mystery bucks?
there must be more than we thought. Im giving $15 per month.
There is a little more now thanks to your efforts Daniel. We need to talk soon.
Im glad for that. I hope that it continues to grow.



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