On this (and every) Memorial Day, we set aside time to those who have served in the military, especially those who have made "the ultimate sacrifice". But once said troops get back home, what do we - especially our Republocrat/Demonican politicians - do? Hint: Look up what happened to our World War I vets and who led the charge on them, among other things.

My good buddy David 2 discusses this and other ways our veterans get the shaft in this week's BRUTALLY HONEST commentary: http://brutallyhonestcolumn.blogspot.com/2014/05/week-of-05262014.html

As always, your thoughts and opinions are welcome, either here or on David's page.

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I am a veteran.  Not of combat.  I served mostly in a NATO unit in Turkey, and our small unit lost 5 to 10% of its soldiers to acts of violence, including a machine-gunning of guys waiting at a train station, in uniform, a bombing at the airport welcome center, and a few individual acts.  So it was not without risk.

That was also during an era when soldiers and other military were generally reviled, especially by privileged youth who felt they were on the moral high ground, and also safer, by getting deferments.  Not that I consider that war morally right, or desert storm, or the invasion of Iraq.

In the end, I did appreciate my benefits.  Part of my education was via GI Bill, although a lot was via indentured servitude.  My first home was via VA loan, which I paid off fully.  And I have always felt that I had a health safety net, via the VA.   I also had some of my training at a VA facility.  While there is less than perfection there, university and for-profit hospitals have their issues too.  Some of them very scandalous, and some with billing that results in profound financial loss to the patient.  I certainly did my utmost to be compassionate, respectful, and empathetic to those I served.

I think I was, and am, fortunate.  A lot of military veterans, and war veterans (I am not a war veteran), have had a lot more difficult time, by far.  But it's not all bad, either.

It would be nice, just once, in the past 35 years, if on veterans day (not memorial day - I thought that was for those who were killed in war)  someone gave me, maybe, a donut.  But again, I am around a lot of privileged people, and ones in my generation almost universally had deferments, and I can see they would feel conflicted about that.

For the here and now, Daniel, this is the best I can do:

If you're ever in the Cleveland area, lemme know ... and yer money's no good!

Loren, thank you!

And it's mutual, if you are ever in Vancouver WA  - not that a lot of people visit here  :-)

I'm a veteran and served mostly in Germany. No combat, but I was trained in engineering and demolitions, then became the company mail clerk, orderly room assistant, and orderly room runner. What it meant mostly is that I delivered papers on our base and others, called everyone by first name, and was often sent for coffee. If I was around. I was a busy guy and duty exempt also, so no guard duty or KP. I had it made, but decided to quit the Army after just one tour.

Today I have done nothing and stayed home drinking beer. I called my wife who suggested I go visit my mother's grave. (I wasn't aware that mom wore combat boots?) It's a day to remember your fallen dead that fought and died for all of our freedoms. That is much on my mind. I'm also much aware that our veterans have gotten the shaft over the years. That part is a shame.

Sentient, Loren, Michael...thanks for your service. If any of you are in St. Louis anytime soon, I've got a couple of boxes of doughnuts (hopefully Tim Hortons, but if not, World's Fair - best doughnut shop in town!).

I've never served myself, but do know those who have. And I agree with David's premise that the people who served - who deserve our honor, our thanks and above all, our respect - deserve much better than what they've gotten, for the most part. They've done things and seen things that I don't think I could handle very well - I don't have that mental toughness for military life. They deserve whatever benefits we can give them, without question. 

Brent, Jon Stewart did a great episode on this topic. Vets have been screwed over since the revolutionary war.

I think the most important benefits you can give a vet are those we should give everyone - a boost for education, medical safety net, treatment for any injuries, physical or mental, resulting from duty, and some respect. In some ways, military service is a great equalizer, snd the most important learning for me was that we are strongest in our equality and diversity.

Saw that re: Stewart. Haven't seen the clip yet, but I'll bet it's Jon Stewart at his best. 

I would agree that military service is a great equalizer. And yes, EVERYONE should have what you're saying. It's a sad commentary, IMHO, that we treat our vets as we do. I think Bernie Sanders (his Tweet quoted and linked to in David's commentary) got it right.

When I first saw the title I took a slightly different view of the subject.

I wondered why all those men, women and children die in wars, especially WW2.

What were they, the soldiers,fighting for?

Is the society we live in today the type of society those people fought and died for?

Did they die so we could have the freedom to choose whatever life it is we wish to lead or did they die in the hope their children, nieces and nephews would have something better? Whatever better means and better than what? 

And when it comes to freedom of choice, does that include freedom to act in a corrupt manner? Freedom for those in the know to make millions out of government tendered contracts, while we the plebeians know nothing of such tenders. Why are thugs still allowed to commit acts of thuggery and get away with it?

I wonder, is there a logical connection between the reason why those who died for us in war, especially in WW2, and a reason for thugs and corrupt politicians and business people to not be corrupt?




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