Recently, I was denied membership in a Facebook group because I expressed the idea that people of color can be racist. Honestly, I thought everyone agreed with that. Obviously, I'm not suggesting that all people of color are racist. But I believe any person, regardless of skin color, can be racist. What do you think?

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Thank you John :)

I have never been able to understand the problem people have grasping this concept. II grew up understanding this. I also understood it is pretty much the same with dog breeds. I have no idea how I learned this when almost everyone can't seem to figure this shit out but....

Guess I musta had a damn good science teacher early on that I don't remember very well, or maybe a book I read when I was very young that I have forgotten. But it was so painfully obvious to me I never understood how everyone has such a problem here.

However my parents never treated anyone any different based on race, ect... but somehow from between when they were in their 30's or so they've been brainwashed by their church. I've heard them say some shit I never imagined I'd hear them say. But it's not like I could ever stand up to them, not unless I want them to shoot me (which is something they've tried a few times before). Churches have been changing over the past 30 years. They've been changing in some very dangerous ways, from wanting to create a church run government to openly embracing of racism, anti science ideas ect. I"ve had the unfortunate privilege of seeing these changes first hand having hidden among them for so long.

Yes and no. With mixed race populations, such as African Americans, geneticists can track an individuals genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor. That means race does have some basis in biological reality ( timeinc.net ). All humans,whatever their race, do share the same set of genes though. The designation of different races are often an artificial construct.

The point is, it is OK for their to be some differences among people. Diversity is a good thing.

It is also true that Japanese and Jewish get their own diseases and perhaps there are others as well. But if race is only a construct it is a lie i can live with. 

People of different races do indeed have different propensities for illness. White and Asian women are more prone to decreased bone density. There is a long list of race specific diseases. As I said, there are biological differences among the races. The artificial construct is where the lines are often drawn. For example some government forms have white / hispanic as a box to check or Asian / Pacific Islander. There are genetic differences between people of north and south China as there are between people of north and south Mexico. So these racial delineations don't make much sense.

You should ask John Elder about this, as he's a biologist. However, I'll quote him for you here...

"Biologically you are exactly right BenGee. There are no fixed significant genetic differences among so called "races". -John Elder

It's not a lie, what it is is a failure to understand what constitutes a new species. Race isn't really a thing, you can have similar delineations in animals which in turn carry specific genetic propensities for illness, ect. However that doesn't mean they posses "significant genetic differences" add to that those "differences" are not fixed between the "races" I can not accept your claim. So I did not lie, nor do I think I am wrong here.

Dog breeds are the closest example I can think of that could be similar to "race" and yet dog breeds are also a social construct, in fact dog breeds have far more genetic variety than humans and yet still are all the same species with no further meaningful delineation. Dog "breeds" were invented by rich people in the 17th century or so with too much time on their hands having fun with selective breeding. However none of the changes constitute anything significantly different on a genetic or biological level. John, feel free to jump in here and correct me if I'm wrong on this. After all I'm just a kid who grew up in bio labs. I never actually studied biology as a science. I have been to many of the research bio labs around the world and have seen absolutely nothing to back up your claim that "race" exists.

(My dad was a microscope sales rep, I grew up being cheap/free labor putting together multi million dollar microscopes, I got to use a laser dissecting microscope in Hawaii, have worked with electron scanning microscopes, inverted microscopes. My dad treated me like shit, like I was too stupid to understand, the lab personnel however treated me well and answered any/all questions I had. I just made sure to ask when my dad wasn't in the room. None of this is the same as having the qualifications John has, who is a biology professor. So I could be wrong, but this is how I grew up viewing the world. I have yet to see any evidence that should suggest I significantly change my view of things)

I learned. Thanks for taking the time John. 

That really is kind of you to say, thank you John.

Too bad I can't turn this into a decent job lol. To be fair I find many people place a high degree of emphasis on credentials, so my attempts to play mine down is an active attempt to disarm people who would judge me based on education rather than listen to my arguments and points.

Also you did a far better job explaining how the genetic markers used to identify heritage than I think I could have.

If only the adults were as wise as the children.

You're right about having to be taught. It seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same.  68 years ago this song caused a ruckus on Broadway.

I like that video BB.  Thanks.  Too bad people learn racism more easily than they do, say, algebra.  And once learned, most people seem to retain it.  Racism, I mean.  Algebra seems to be forgotten pretty fast.

I'm glad too - there's already enough hate out there.

Earth is the box that we live in and all of the many colors are residing within this one color box. Think of crayons here. In time the children themselves will do away with racism.

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