Try all fiction.
Jesus died and his death and resurrection was attached to Easter/Ishtar which is originally a Spring fertility festival tied in with the first full moon after the Spring equinox. Why would this be done? It means that Easter was March 30th in 1986 and April 23rd in 2000. Easter has a moveable dateline. If Jesus died on the Friday before Easter he doesn't rate highly enough to have his own date of death. Nuff said?
Others claim that the actual 3 days and 3 nights involved were Wednesday through Saturday, but mostly this is the Seventh Day Adventists who then have Jesus rising on their own sacred day of the week.
Still others say that the resurrection of Jesus was actually connected to the Passover, which lasted more than one day but again has a movable dateline. Passover was when god killed all the firstborn except for the Jewish ones, and it had to do with the Exodus from Egypt which we know today never really happened. The Jews were not slaves to Egypt. Why would Jesus' resurrection be tied to Passover?
To the Romans early Christianity was a Jewish movement. Did someone put this together in a way as to give Judaism its Messiah in hopes of avoiding future conflict? It appears so to me except for the "moveable dates" involved. This is where the fiction comes in, but someone prior to 325 AD was trying to attach Jesus to Judaism perhaps for this reason.
Imagine a real person that you know who wants to keep the memory of his loved one alive so every year he commemorates the anniversary of that death. The problem is that you notice his loved one dies on a different day every year. You might humor him or you might think he was insane.
You might assume that his loved one never rated highly enough to have his own date of death. In this case the loved one is most likely a fiction. So much for Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection for the sake of our sins.
Well, Mike, you're almost a day late on your opinion here. You have to stop procrastinating. :)
Yes, reopening old wounds for the Christians and rubbing some salt in as well.
I still like the theory that Easter (Ishtar) is the Pagan festival celebrating birth or the planting of seeds.
It is more appropriate for Birth instead of Christmas, as it is the celebration of planting seeds and giving them some Ishtar magic to help them grow.
It is a fable that Constantine in his stupidity, attached Jesus Christ to and it obviously has nothing to do with him, only Constantine wanted something popular to plant the name of his false saviour onto.
I still find that because it varies year to year, unlike an actual death event, it makes the existence of Jesus suspect.
They really should have used a fixed date for the event, the 3 days are irrelevant, they could be 3rd, 4th & 5th of April as fixed dates and it would seem more possible a real person died on the 3rd of April.
But, nobody knows when he died, making the story extremely suspect.
In all of my bible study I wasn't even aware of a lot of this until I read your blog on the subject. It just fell in place and made perfect sense. Apparently there is nothing about Jesus' birth or death accurately recorded. People 'blinded by faith" just seem to let that pass them by.
the link with Ishtar is new to me, I thought it was Eostre. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre
You are correct. Ishtar is a Babylonian link. There's Astarte and Eostre, Astoreth, etc. The name used would depend upon which region of the world you are from.
For example, the name Jesus is literally a Greek form of the Jewish name Yeshua which is often said as Joshua also.
That suggests that those ladies are all the same person. Do you know more about it?
Just what I read online and that's what I've been passing on. In many cases the lady goddess might not be the same person but the attributes of that goddess will be the same and the function of them would be the same. This would seemingly make them the same.
An ignorant version of that (and I've actually heard this said) is when Americans are upset that Mexicans take "their Jesus" and butcher his name by calling him "Heysoos." This shows zero understanding of language.
Remember that what we are talking about here is a yearly celebration that connects Jesus and his crucifixion to a moveable calender event that involves the spring equinox and the first full moon after that time. This would involve springtime, seeds, planting, new life, etc. What would that have to do with Jesus who then has no real date of death and no real date of resurrection? I can only conclude that it never happened and is symbolic.
Some of us used to have Osterizer blenders too. :)
Even a fixed date in the Hebrew calendar, or the ancient Roman calendar, would lend a birth or death more credibility.
I was curious to this yesterday. The connection with rebirth and spring is unmistakable and a product of the climate where this all originated. What if all this had occurred in the tropics? What if instead it had been in southern Australia where the season is off by half a year? Would easter be in October? Or would easter be tied to death going into winter with the focus being on the death instead.
Very good point, but what I'm seeing here is that Jesus didn't rate as the son of god if (and indeed if) they ever crucified him. He didn't rate enough to have an actual date of death. The Christian will argue this with you, tying his death to Easter but my blog shows this would only be figurative at best. His death and resurrection cannot be tied to Passover or Saturday in place of Sunday.
If you succeed in getting your 3 days and nights from Wednesday through Saturday you still have no actual date for the most important event in Christian history. Important things that have happened and have no date might as well have never happened at all. These things are then without proof. In fact, they are beyond proof.