David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.  Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on firebrand atheism which relates to his new book, Fighting God.  In it, he talks about the fact that we as atheists need to be BOLD, we need to stop using euphemisms and talking around the subject and confront the issues of theism versus atheism head-on.  We need to grasp and own the facts, know that we have them and THEY DON'T.  This doesn't mean being a dick or being abusive, but owning the facts and using them to our advantage.

This is the message that has to get through to atheists in the US right now. We owe it to ourselves to be loud and proud about our atheism, so that people know that There Is NOTHING Wrong With Atheism ... because there isn't, yet there is PLENTY wrong with religion.

Break it down, David!

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My answer regarding the need for help can be couched in something I wrote a few years back:

Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us.
-- me

Having a community of people who can be supportive is one thing, but such communities need not depend on any kind of deity.  The one thing which churches probably do best is provide community for support and help.  The PROBLEM with churches is that they also reinforce beliefs which have no real-world evidentiary backup.

I am both an atheist and a pragmatist.  The pragmatist in me says (to quote AronRa, "If you can't show it, you don't know it.  For myself, I prefer to deal in what IS and I don't have time to waste on what is NOT.

James Benjamin Franklin said it years ago  " God helps those who help themselves"

What most people don't realize is that he was an Atheist, humorist, and satirist. Most Christians believe he ment something like "God will bless your work" 

I think he was ridiculing them and saying "pray all you want but it ain't happen till you get your hands dirty." 

The second profit of mormonism said something similar. He said "Pray as if it all depended on god, and work as if it all depended on you."

Rather revealing, no?  Merde, alors!

Loren, something that does not exist...... I'm gonna write that down and commit it memory!! Bumper stickers, signs, banners? That sums up our rational thought and gives a definitive reason why.  Way to go! Short, simple, to the point.

I'd like to get connected with groups like the freedom from religion foundation. I don't simply want to give money (of which I have almost none to give anyway), I'd like to be active in assisting. I'm not afraid of public speaking though I'm sure there are many far better suited for it, regardless I have technical expertise and the ability to help regardless of the role.

Not sure how I could do that however.

I know the site well, I re

Peer pressure is every where, especially in schools and most family dynamics.

I will look into being able to help. Thank you

BenGee, I misunderstood you, I thought you were trying to get in touch with FFRF. 

You might shoot brother richard an e-mail. He might be able to point you in the right direction.

You think he'd have time to talk to me? 

It's ok, even if I found someone that I could help, unless they offered me a paying position so I can free myself from over 30 years of religious abuse that I can't seem to escape, there's really little I could do. Even trying to start a local thing, that's a 1 hour drive to the nearest local school I could participate in (the one I work at is a elementary school that is very small, I wouldn't impose anything on them that young, and well the locals would come out with fire and pitchforks if I ever mentioned the A word where they could hear) . Doing anything locally would be suicide as I would end up homeless or dead the moment the mountain community found out. This isn't the sort of place I could be safe, my drunk religious dad might show up guns blazing (that's not an exaggeration, he has already shot at me more than once for far smaller offenses, and once just cause, guess I'm lucky booze makes for poor accuracy).

I'd need to plug in somewhere I could get away from here, my family suspects or know's at this point so its very tense at the moment. Mostly its just ignored as a topic finally, my neighbors and customers still harass me every single day but whatever.


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