Internet trolls thrive on bullying, generating outrage, creating fake conflicts, violating community standards, and kicking books out of the hands of nerds in the hallway.   They, like gods, cannot live without attention.  The attention that sustains them, is outrage.   And just like gods, and Tinker Bell, if you don't believe in them, they fade away.


If a troll happens to respond to this topic, even here, it's best not to respond to it.  I forget whether the person who starts a topic can remove responses, but if so...  that could happen.  Meanwhile, you can talk about the troll, but not actually respond to it.


I don't now what's up with admin.  Regardless, this is the best atheist site on Ning or any other network.  The annual troll visitation will pass, things will settle down, and the sun will shine again.



Actual unretouched photo taken of a troll.  Via

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At this point in time, as I stated earlier, I'm worried about how it looks to a new member or to outsiders visiting the site for the first time.  I think we have a reputation for being very civil and respectful, and I hate to see that image compromised.  

Does anyone know how the reporting system works?  Do these reports go to Richard or to some other person associated with Ning,.   

Carl, they go to Richard.  I think.  I think Ning is not involved in day to day issues of Nexus.

This also brings up another Terms of Service issue I would like to discuss, but want Richard's involvement.  Not sure what to do about that right now.  I just hope he is not ill, not having some sort of insurmountable challenge, and is simply on vacation or something right now.  I imagine Nexus support is not even close to enough to make a living, he has a family, and other fish to fry, so to speak.  But this issue remains to be resolved.

I've submitted two reports.

Has anyone here contacted Richard directly?  If not, perhaps we can designate one person to do so.  I did once before with another issue and it was taken care of quickly. 

Doesn't AN have a rule that only atheists are allowed?  I am certain that he wasn't.  He used the OT as evidence that the Jews did horrible things to people.

You are right. I dont know if those quotes are the same as admitting to theism, but they seem close.

I believe his atheism is sincere, but he's apparently using the non-supernatural parts of the bible as a legitimate guide to history.  Yes, parts of the bible are historically accurate, but not enough overall to be a credible reference.  It's all a mind game to validate your ideology. 

Carl, I think you are right on his biblical history use. Israel Finkelstein has proven OT history to be outright false in most instances and off by 100 years in others. It's doubtful that the main heroes in OT history even existed. Susan and others have thought our troll was really a theist, but I suspect he is a self involved opinionated atheist who thinks everyone in the world should be just like he is, right down to his color and basic beliefs. Theists want to say that atheists are angry. Our troll appeared to be very angry and getting his thrill and attention by spreading his mess.

All I know  is  whenever I saw his icon of Hitler....It gave me the chills....Anyone  using  that is heartless and shameless and a coward....

I'm sure the Jews like the Persians, Assyrians etc. etc. did horrible things to people. 

The old testament isn't history, but maybe cs just doesn't know that. It doesn't mean they're religious.  Many of us would think the Exodus etc. actually happened, until we find out otherwise. 

It's mindblowing that a Hitler fan criticizes the Jews for cruelty!

It is heartbreaking to hear  how some of my fellow members have known  victims  of hatred and abuse...It is  quite  understandable  how  angry  you felt and why  you tried  to fight back  with this troll.....Unfortunately  people  like him have no feelings  of shame and no matter what we say, will have  no meaningful effect....The best thing to do is ignore him and report him and feel sorry  for his miserable life....Like it was said  earlier, we are  a `Family' here and  he was a party crasher, totally unwelcome.....Time to move on....

I suggest a single reply to identify the person as a troll and then exit the conversation and leave the troll hanging.

According to Wikipedia, a troll

is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

So the "troll" accusation implies the person is making their obnoxious statements with an ulterior motive.  It suggests they don't necessarily mean what they're saying, they get their jollies out of being outrageous. 

It seems to be a way to discount what the "troll" is saying. 

But in reality, cs seems sincere, and really does fancy himself as an enlightened thinker bringing truth to us "brainwashed cultists". 



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