I hope we can start a serious disscusion about having one Global Atheist Symbol to identify all the atheists in the World.

The two letters A + T are at the root of more than 80 official languages plus hundreds of unofficial languages or regional languages:

Latest design 2010 ATHEIST EYE ~OJO ATEO:

The original design:

Slideshow of the latest design atheisteye:

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Jorge Aberingi

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I am thinking that we use a symbol only to demonstrate that we are united against theism. Against Theism is A T. Also A-Theism (meaning without theism) is A T. Because of this, to me a form of A T is the best symbol. I personally like the stylish circled A over T because I think the positive theme of it would burden the church the most in its attempt to depict us as malign.
Fundies, O'reilly and Rush will find a way to depict us as malign anyway. I think that whatever is voted in needs to be enduring, not a symbol that can be identified by future generations as belonging to a particular period in time. Kind of like how the peace symbol has become so dated and droll that it is more of a nostalgic fashion than a representative symbol. Also, a tasteful universal symbol will make it easier to identify each other.
I do not see a combination of A and T belonging to a particular period in time. Atheism will always be A-Theism so it will always be well represented by a combination of A and T. Also, I think your idea to not fight against being depicted as malign by the church et alia would be very counter-productive. If implemented I believe it would unnecessarily make life harder for all of us. We should be making decisions that will best provide for our positions against religion and these must include a stand against the proposition that we are malign. We might learn a lesson from the Gay community. In its fight for parity it certainly is not allowing others to depict it as malign.
Hello, Of the versions shown I prefer the simpler circle version because the slick/pointy star-ish version reminds me two much of these two symbols. (Sikh & Shriners)
I am quite content with the "Red - A" from the "out-campaign" - and if I were to tattoo myself that is what I would get. I understand your points about language - very important Valid points - however some of us will never agree to a unifying symbol b/c we have a basic and fundemental problem with "self-labelling." Also I don't care which is "most popular" on the net.
I think the world is large enough to have multiple symbols, surely we can recognize that there are 1000's of different ways to be A - T.
I for one see no real need to expect diverse people worldwide to commit to a single symbol. No amount of agumentation, statistics, or debate is going to change everyone... to continue on with John's point about the gay community - yes there is one "Rainbow Pride Flag" but it is not the only Pride flag - there are flags for "leather/BSSM" "Bisexuals" "Transgendered"
... Perhaps we could take a hint from that?
I was talking about the Gay community not allowing others to depict it as malign. My point was that we should not either. I am in favor of a unifying symbol so that Atheists may be taken more seriously. I like the stylish A over T because it would most effectively depict us as non-malign. It also very effectively represents A-Theism.
How can you say that the A-T is the least malign? It can also represent anti-theism, which not all atheists are.
I know John, I was simply taking your example in a different direction. The gay community gets maligned all the time!
Most of us ignore it or at least don't let the hate keep up from progress. My point was many atheists are label/group identitiy averse and Jorge doens't seem to understand that.
This is to Susan and Ally. Susan: I was talking about the stylish version of the circled A over T depicting us as non-malign. I think it does but I would consider other symbols that did the same thing. Maybe we should have members submit other symbols for consideration. Ally, if we do not unite (agree) at least in that we should not worship we will be easy prey for theists who are united at least in that they believe in god and they are preaching.
Hi John why such a simple thing has to explained over and over again?
A/T symbol is the most logical thing, it's a matter of time that atheist recover their common sence.

How can I get in contact with the coordinator of Atheist Nexus so I can make a formal proposal from the creators of the A/T?

You know, you aren't going to get very far if you keep insulting people for not accepting your idea. Why is it so hard for YOU to understand that not all atheists welcome a universal symbol?

As I already mentioned earlier. A T can also stand for anti-theist. Not all atheists are anti-theist. Plus, the explanation that a symbol is need because religions have it isn't a very good reason. Why would we want to copy religions?
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