Many if not all human societies have origin myths and they differ greatly.
Several years ago a San Francisco-born-and-raised woman told me she is a materialist.
An hour ago a woman who was raised a Jehovah Witness and has left that faith told me the Big Bang story grew from a human need for a beginning. I agreed.
Can you wholeheartedly accept that the universe had no beginning, that it has always existed?
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Government should never stop spending on science. And even if they do, it won't stop the scientists from thinking and coming up with hypotheses,
Tom, just to make sure we are talking about the same people, I take it that when you say "bangers", you are talking about those who go along with the Big Bang theory. If so, then No, I do not go along with their thoughts. But they started out by going backward with the math to determine a starting point. I don't think the starting point goes back that far. BUT, they got to their theory with math, which is science. AND, they do call it a theory, and do not state it as fact. Again, I do not go along with their theory.
noun: mathematics; noun: applied mathematics; noun: pure mathematics
the abstract science of number, quantity, and space. Mathematics may be studied in its own right ( pure mathematics ), or as it is applied to other disciplines such as physics and engineering ( applied mathematics ).
1 : the science of numbers and their operations
Mathematics is the science that deals with the logic of shape, quantity and ...
In 1927 they found that the universe was expanding. By using the "triangulation" method of measuring, they traced the universe back to the "Big Bang". The problem, in my mind, is that they don't know if the movement went all the way back to that point, or if it was acted on by a different set of circumstances. One circumstance could be the "donut" I described earlier, or maybe our section of the universe is a "wisp" or eddy going through a much larger universe than we can imagine. Whatever it is, I don't believe in the Big Bang theory,
Donald, did you find those definitions in general purpose dictionaries, or in dictionaries of mathematics or science?
Relying less on words and more on the differing methods mathematicians and scientists use will advantage you..
Deductive methods differ RADICALLY from inductive methods. Science fiction writers use imagination and deduction. Big Bang cosmologists do the same.
Mathematicians may use infinities, dimensionless points, one-dimension lines, and two-dimension planes. Physicists do not find them in nature.
You are forgiven for not having studied math or science and not knowing what I'm talking about.
I'm sure lucky I have a scientist here to straighten me out on all of this crap.
I'm not a scientist and I don't know about the "big bang." Did it have to "bang" to get the universe started? How would we even know there was a noise?
What I do know is that scientists claim our universe is expanding and travels at an incredible speed. Like firing a bullet from a gun (my example) maybe this is how our scientists claim something so incredibly small became everything. I have no clues but I find awe in the universe.
Neal DeGrass Tyson uses an illustration of a flashlight shining and the projected beam is our universe. To get a good picture of that he first shines the flashlight onto a wall, then widens the beam by shining it across the wall. If that is truly a projection of our universe it makes you wonder what it is projected upon. There are so many unanswered questions.
Could the universe have always existed? That's an interesting idea and a possibility. It makes about as much sense as Christians claiming their god has always existed. Maybe the universe is god. Again, I cannot make claims of certainty but I admit is is OK to accept that we cannot know everything. When I was a Christian I had the answer. Believers have all the answers, but today I really do not know.