Enough already - take down the Brother Richard article from the banner

simple request - there are lots of good posts by members here.  i liked the Brother Richard piece, although i'd prefer just to call you Richard.  but it's time to take that months old post on Michael Sams down from the head of the page.  so please, whoever runs this site, ditch that.  i'm all for LGBT rights, but that's not the most important thing happening in the secular world right now.  they are winning their battle.  we're still terribly behind in ours.  maybe put a well written Hobby Lobby article, or something from the Satanists who are carrying us on their backs in it's place.  perhaps adding an atheist article per day on top of the page would help drive discussion.  i'm just spitballing here but i think there are ways we could improve the user experience here at A/N.  it seems like the admin is asleep at the wheel.    

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lol Pat, i almost expounded upon the whole "brother" thing but decided to pass.  i kind of get it, i guess.  he was a pastor.  anyway glad you joined :)

I like your idea,Matthew, and the term "spitball"! I agree, homosexuality is not our only concern and your idea of something about Hobby Lobby is appropriate for now. An atheist article a day, or a secular positive thought of the day, would work for me. 

The "brother" part of Roberts name makes me think of southern rednecks. 

Ooppss! that should be Richard, not Robert!

Agreed, matthew. Your suggestion reminds me of a spot Garrison Keilor does on NPR in the morning. Keilor features an author, and quotes prose or poetry. Kind of a thought for the day. Same thing could be done here. A link or quote from Robert Ingersoll, Mark Twain, Darwin, Spinoza, H.L. Mencken, etc.

And, I agree with you, Patricia and Joan about the 'brother' title. Doesn't do squat for me.

Actually, it is funny. My favorite program on NPR.

Brother Richard is called "brother" because he was once a theistic minister. No longer theistic he has kept the name "brother" for identity purposes. He is still a minister.

Agreed that the Michael Sams pic ought to be taken down but please don't replace it with anything from the Satanists. As a former theist myself, I protest that we cannot believe in Satan if we do not believe in god. Like they sort of come out of the same book, you know. You cannot cherry pick religion.

I don't know much about Satanists, but I tend to agree with you.  The word satanist turns me off just like the word brother.

Funny that I was thinking the same thing when I came to the site a day or two ago and then a few minutes ago- saw your post and have to agree!  


- I agree, no reason to have that particular link up there forever.  There are plenty of good opinions expressed here.

- I agree, no reason to have that particular picture there forever, though it is a good moment.

- On the issue of "Brother" Richard, I watched the video some time ago where he talks with the other former preacher-type, and I didn't have a problem with him being called "Brother", I took it to mean something either ironic, or in-line with the idea of not throwing the baby out with the bathwater (just because you leave Theism doesn't necessarily mean you throw away the idea of being a community-minded person and a leader for some purposes.)

I have to agree. There have been a number of times lately that I have found myself annoyed with having that picture flashed in my face every time I open AN, and I thought 'does that make me homophobic?' I then realize that I would be equally annoyed with a picture of heterosexual PDA if exposed to it every time I open this site. That part of the site should update on a much more frequent basis.
I sent a report an issue link on this with some suggestions. Not the nom de nexus,but the headliner article.

I confess to being a Victorian prude,

however, I have seen enough of kissing men, and kissing women, and kissing men and women for a lifetime. I am more interested in how people think and what people think. It is in challenging fallacies that we get closer to dealing with real problems with real solutions. 

There are family and friends I am trying to influence to see non-belief as an option. I can't fight that battle and homophobia at the same time. Let the LGBTQ fight their battle and I will join in support of them. I certainly do not expect them to take on non-belief as a cause. 

Please replace the kissers with Secular meditations, Freethought quotes, or Brights principles. Anything but what is there now. 

Joan Denoo




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