My mother constantly posts things on Facebook that she directs at me or tries to include me in that have to do with how great she thinks Fox News is and how evil all other news is. I have tried voicing my opinion that I do NOT like Fox News because I find them to be biased and bigoted. However, she is in far too deep. She is one of those conspiracy theorist tea party loving people. Completely brainwashed.
I honestly cannot stand hearing about it anymore. She is not willing to listen to my side, so why should I listen to hers? She is trying to argue, not debate. She comes off as very condescending, telling me I am wrong about everything, and mocking me for being an atheist.
Most of the rest of my family doesn't have FB, thankfully, except my brother. He likes to get into arguments just as much. He also openly admits to breaking gun laws and how he thinks the government is coming for him. He thinks anyone who thinks differently is just uneducated and beneath him.
I really don't know what to do. Sure, they are family, but I am tired of the disrespect.
just put a wall up in the house.. i did. ; )( so good.
ah fbook.. i'll friend u there. friend my friends majority freethinkers
I hope you can get past this problem with your mom Kelly. I have the same problem from the opposite side - the parent side with a parent/child ideological divide. One of my children is very religious (let's call him Ralph) and when I hear about all the mumbo jumbo stuff Ralph belongs to I want to sit him down and convince him that he is on the wrong path.
But I don't. I try and lead by example and try to show him I respect his choices. From a Christian/Atheist marriage where I thought all three children would figure it out and didn't push and let them all go to church, two are more or less in my camp.
That third one sometimes drives me crazy - but I don't force discussions and never post anything on his facebook page.
Hang in there, Kelly! When I go to my oncologist's every six months (gone into remission with leukemia twice because of him) he always has Fox on to entertain and inform the old folks whom he assumes only want to watch Fox. I have not told him my opinion of Fox. I depend on this guy for my life. So I bite my tongue. He has stickers on the walls of each examining room with the words, "Lawsuit Abuse" in a circle with a diagonal line through it -- something we joke about, as he knows I am an attorney. And he is almost apologetic about being a Republican. I think he knows his party is fighting for him, as he surely makes a good living, which he's also apologetic about. Well, I have said too much.....
James, you hang in there too. I think it is sad an oncologist finds logic from Fox News.
Try to focus on what you need to do to take care of your needs. Family is family and you will alway have empathy for them.
I thought everyone liked the American version Pravda. They fit in so well with the christian nation.
Sorry for your suffering, Kelly. I would be tempted to just sarcastically agree with everything she says about Fox News.........Yes Mother, Fox News tells it like it is!!!!........they're the greatest!!!!!! Definitely a tough situation if you have to live with one or both of these people. The silver lining is that your "critical thinking skills" are "up and operating" at an early age. You are able to see the world as it is. That is something that a lot of folks don't figure out until much later in life (and many, not at all).
I don't know who has convinced all the 'gun nuts' that the government wants to take their guns away. Must be the NRA. I am a gun owner but I have no delusion that the gov't is going to take mine, or anybody else's guns. It's worth mentioning that, although I support the 2nd Amendment, it was drafted and ratified before modern firearms were even invented - No revolvers, no semi-automatic pistols or rifles, no lever-action rifles, and certainly no fully-automatic rifles.
Hang in there, gal. All of us HERE know that you are on the side of reason and logic, even though your family fails to realize that.
My father is a bit like this. He's a crazy conspiracy theorist type and very conservative. He lives in the middle of nowhere and mostly watches Fox. First things first, you can only control what you can control. You cannot control her actions or reactions. You can only control your own. As for arguments/discussions, the point isn't really to win. Thinking like that gets you nowhere.
The fact of the matter is that all arguments begin in agreement. That is, you can't have an argument if you literally disagree about everything. You are both humans, with similar backgrounds and similar upbringings. Based purely on that alone, you've got a lot in common. The trick is to find the common ground. Instead of focusing on the things you disagree about, try to find the things you do agree about. Often we tend to argue past one another without realizing that we actually agree. If you can find the common ground, then the places where you REALLY disagree will become more apparent and THEN you can address those issues.
If you really want to get through to her, I suggest finding some lectures of argumentation and rhetoric. If I can convince my dad that Obamacare is actually a step in the direction that Jesus would have us go, then there's hope for the rest of humanity. We just have to learn how to argue our case. The first step, however, is recognizing that we are not yelling at an enemy, but rather trying to liberate an ally from ignorance. At the same time, we have to be willing to admit when we're wrong as well. It's a two way street.
Kelly, I've dropped on facebook my brother because of an issue like this. You are not obligated to be her friend on facebook. You could always shoot a warning shot over her head: "if you don't stop sending me fox news crap, I will unfriend you on facebook." Or you could just unfriend her (and your brother as well). Or block them.
I go on facebook to catch up with friends and family that I'm interested in. Some of them are mind-bogglingly conspiracy-theorist jesusloving crazy wingnuts, but don't pester me personally with their crap, so I just scroll over and move on.