As you all one cannot prove a negative so the possibility that God exists is real. There could be an intelligence that is responsible for everything that is and that happens

Life for living things is cruel. That is undeniable. Is nothing responsible for it? 

If there is a supreme being or intelligence responsible that intelligence or being has to be evil logically speaking. Perhaps this thing so many people believe in and bet to is real in some sense? Maybe it is not the main "god" but perhaps it is little bitch like the character Q from Star Trek only much more cruel and totally depraved. Certainly, the God of the Bible and Koran is a filthy no good son of a bitch and the Bible and the Koran prove it. This being has tormented corporeal life since it began. 

Real or fictional, God does no good and a great deal of harm. Very few believers will be swayed into believing that there is nothing but while most of them will deny the reality of their god and the inhumanity and torment humankind endures perhaps some of them will screw up their courage and turn against this sadistic entity? That would be better than having them believe in BS like prayer and faith aka believing something you know is a lie.

Mark Twain gave this a lot of thought.

Mark Twain's Diatribe

Mark Twain's Diatribe

...a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; 
who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; 
who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; 
who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; 
who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; 
who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; 
who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; 
who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; 

and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him! --Mark Twain--

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Once you assume a Creator and a plan, it makes us objects in a cruel experiment whereby we are created sick and then commanded to be well...
-- Christopher Hitchens

Which essentially means that this supposed creator has stacked the deck severely against us, then expects us to win out for a reward whose quality and desirability is questionable at best. This is patent horse manure and one more reason why I put no credence in religions.

In the scheme of things we are a speck upon a speck. There are things that exist that we cannot see, feel or touch. There are other dimensions that may intersect with ours and they may contain intelligence that is beyond our comprehension. We just don't know.  

The cruelty that corporeal life endures is real. Something is responsible for existence.

While I doubt there is a god like the one people believe in because they are in denial but who can blame them?  Life suck and then you die pretty much sums it. 

But if there is something there, is certainly is malevolent based on the hit we endure. Quantum theory says that everything that can happen does and that time is nonlinear.  With that in mind, I would like to have a redo with this life. I have had a lot of shit dumped on me health wise. My mother was a drunk and very abusive and very religious and very much a hypocrite like most Christians. She fractured my skull with a rolling pin when I was a little kid. Fate had more shit in store for me. I had a spine injury which has caused me chronic pain since 1991. 

What convinced that was no good god was the fact that I never had a prayer answered and I never really felt a presence like some believers claim to feel. I was thinking about becoming a Satan worshiper but when I asked Satan to help me nothing happened like is was with God. And as the story goes the all knowing God was kinda blindsided by Lucifer and instead of destroying Lucifer and the bad angels God gave them the task of torturing humans for all eternity. In Christianity, you get shit here on earth and if you don't accept Jesus the torment increases and for all eternity. 

Christianity and Islam are so so cruel but the seem to reflect the cruel reality of life in this small speck of the universe. I think religion is a desperate attempt to explain our plight and the fairytale part is maybe there to keep us from cashing in our chips before the cosmic casino get them all back.

God could be collective unconscious that has a type of duality and perhaps the ass kissing prayers The Bible god is a cruel narcissistic and sociopathic bully and flaming asshole. It could be that this meta deriving  its power from suffering and fears of humans. 


Geez, false gods, false news, false politicians, false government, false prayers, false beliefs, false patriotism, false advertising, false promises, false morals, false loyalties, false faiths.  

What do we have to do to put into place decent, moral, ethical, honest, dependable, reliable, intelligent, people into all the false systems?  

I can wake up in the morning, angry as hell and feel helpless and hopeless. I can withdraw into a cocoon, pretending everything is normal, when, in fact, I see no evidence of normality. 

Or, I can wake up and recognize the reality of insanity and refuse to be cowed by it. I can live a responsible life, seek out friends who want to be healthy. I can eject those from my life who are toxic. My intentions can be to encourage and support those who want to live a happy, healthy life. 

During the occupation of Germany Eisenhower ordered the execution of 1.7 million Nazis. If you google Eisenhower's holocaust you can read about. The Russian did a similar purge. It looks like it worked because Germany is a peaceful and productive country. Some people are FUBAR and it's genetic. It's like wolf vs dog. You can never turn your back on a wolf.

We can avoid it for only so long. We need to confront it for our kids so that they don't live in a world with so many bad and dangerous people. While some of it is nurture a lot of it is nature. The brains of people who identify as conservatives had lower IQs and their brains are structurally different than those who identify as liberals. 

Some people are simply no damn good. The birthers are an example of that. They knew Obama was born in the US and they also that even if he weren't he'd still be eligible because his mother was an American but the kept telling the lie for years. If there were a bounty on them, I'd make a career hunting them down and collecting their scalps. 

Chuck, will you please send me the citations for your claim of "Eisenhower's holocaust"?

I am already familiar with the articles by Nord Davis and Betty Lou Smith Hanson. Do you have others? 

Chuck, your account of Eisenhower's "holocaust" of German POWs conflicts with accounts of the treatment of POWs who during the war were brought to America and placed in POW camps.
I lived in the American South soon after WW2 and heard the accounts of Negro veterans who said POWs in those states were treated better than they were. In the late 1960s I lived in Phoenix and heard long-time residents tell of the POW camp there.
Further, many American GIs would have known of what you claim and would have spoken of it, and it would not have remained secret during the extended war crime trials in

Here are a few quotes that I like:

If there was an all-powerful God, he would have made all good, and no bad. - Mark Twain

If this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him? - Albert Einstein

If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. - Isaac Asimov

If you want me to believe in God, you must make me touch him. - Denis Diderot

That darn thing of people who say a god spoke to them and also said to then go tell others about it also has many psychological things ascribed to it. There are also many things that talk about gods that practice many different things.

So to finish, here is also a quote from Dr. Richard Dawkins:

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. Denis Diderot

I would rewrite that like this. Man will never be free until the last CEO is strangled with the entrails of the last priest and politician they own.

I can't discount the effects the god delusion has on humanity directly and perhaps in unseen ways. Real or fictional, destroying God will not be a bad thing.

I concur. I should have also added this quote:

The commingling of guilt and fear that Christianity has set loose upon the earth has been more destructive of emotional health than we will ever be able to measure. - Baruch Spinoza

Some fairytales are very dangerous. 

Getting people do disbelieve in the worst fairytales is best for humanity.

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I agree!


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