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as no one here SHOULD know, today is the National Day of Prayer.  yes, apparently there will be a lot of sore knees when the devout wake up tomorrow.  i hope they're nice and bloody.  

the President is required by law to participate in this.  good thing he's not really a Muslim or he'd be off to Muslim hell, assuming they have such a thing.  i find this whole thing ridiculous, and a resounding fuck you to the Constitution.  so i'd like to return the favor by telling any holier than though who participates in this farce to go fuck yourself and the pew you rode in on.  

Jefferson and Madison repeatedly refused to accept requests for this very thing.  how is it that people who claim to love love love the Constitution and the Founders be so ignorant of both?  to set the record straight, here is what Jefferson wrote to one faith leader upon receiving his request to have a National Day of Prayer:

“I have duly received your favor of the 18th and am thankful to you for having written it, because it is more agreeable to prevent than to refuse what I do not think myself
authorized to comply with. I consider the government of the U.S. as interdicted by the
Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or
exercises…. Certainly no power to prescribe any religious exercise, or to assume
authority in religious discipline, has been delegated to the general government….
But it is only proposed that I should recommend, not prescribe a day of fasting & prayer.


That is, that I should indirectly assume to the U. S. an authority over religious exercises which the Constitution has directly precluded them from. It must be meant too that this recommendation is to carry some authority, and to be sanctioned by some penalty on those who disregard it; not indeed of fine and imprisonment, but of some degree of proscription perhaps in public opinion. And does the change in the nature of the penalty make the recommendation the less a law of conduct for those to whom it is directed?


I do not believe it is for the interest of religion to invite the civil magistrate to direct its
exercises, its discipline, or its doctrines; nor of the religious societies that the general
government should be invested with the power of affecting any uniformity of time or
matter among them. Fasting & prayer are religious exercises. The enjoining them an act
of discipline. Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the times for these exercises, & the objects proper for them, according to their own particular tenets; and this right can never be safer than in their own hands, where the constitution has deposited it.


I am aware that the practice of my predecessors may be quoted. But I have ever believed that the example of state executives led to the assumption of that authority by the general government, without due examination, which would have discovered that what might be a right in a state government, was a violation of that right when assumed by another. Be this as it may, every one must act according to the dictates of his own reason, & mine tells me that civil powers alone have been given to the President of the U.S. and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents.


I again express my satisfaction that you have been so good as to give me an opportunity of explaining myself in a private letter, in which I could give my reasons more in detail than might have been done in a public answer: and I pray you to accept the assurances of my high esteem & respect.”

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Tell you what, Matthew: your guy is NOT alone.  Kindly witness the following:



That is Senator Tom Harkin.  How 'bout THEM apples?

Loren! Excellent! Oh! would there be more who honor secular USA!

Loren, i LOVE LOVE LOVE those apples.  wow, thanks for finding this.  

Matthew, My computer doesn't like "Like", so let me say I like your comment.
Furthermore, I resoundingly do no want my POTUS to be involved, officially in any religious ceremony. To have a law requiring my president to participate in this event goes against my thinking. Is there a National Day of Non-Believers Non-Prayer? or National Day Prayer of Native American ? or Sun Worshipers? or Apollo? Baal? or Giai?
Look around. Who are the hungry, homeless, ignorant, sick and diseased? What are there needs and what options exist to meet basic, fundamental needs of living things? Why should we be immune from hearing the cries of these.

thanks Joan.  a national day to pretend to talk to the non-existent just really pissed me off that day.  

lol.  hallelujah!  haha, that's such a stupid word no one knows how to spell it.  i had to look it up.  

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