he just couldn’t keep it in his Church, could he? there’s really no need for this, go to your house of worship if you want to hear or say prayers out loud. i’m sure there are non-religious, jewish, or other religions represented in that crowd. they don’t need to hear how the Lord is the one and only answer to salvation.

besides, it was against the rules (for a reason). he should be punished.

this is one of two things, IMO.  

1.  he is prosthelytizing.  he knows that all his church goers know the prayer and wants non-church goers to hear it too.  maybe they'll convert after hearing the powerful words.  

2.  he's saying fuck you to every non-Christian he knows.  

i think #2 is much more likely.  they are really pissed they aren't allowed to push their religion everywhere they want.  they want revenge, and some will pull these types of stunts to achieve it.  how Christian, lol.

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Someone needs to remind this hotshot jerk about Matthew 6:5-6 ... presuming he cares at all.

i suppose he's old enough to know better, but i still blame the parents.  

The schools could put a stop to this is they chose to do so.  A high school not too far from where I lived had a rule for a no nonsense graduation.  One of the students appeared to faint dead on the stage and the school called the police.  He was whisked away to jail and did not graduate.  This may seem extreme but they were having students disrupt graduation in various kinds of ways and they put a stop to it.

he's saying fuck you to every non-Christian he knows.

Here's the real hell of that statement: He May Not KNOW Any Non-Christians!  My daughter went to college in North Carolina, and she noted to me once the number of people she met who had never met a Jew, a Muslim, or ANYONE outside of the local culture.  For what I've seen, this is very common in the Deep South - to have very little interaction outside of one's immediate community.

Frankly, these people are doing themselves no favors with this kind of insularity.  What they've obviously done is ASSUME that the rest of the world is little different from their own little corner, and because they have very little experience with cultural diversity, they will be very poorly equipped to deal with it when they are confronted with it, and if any of them move outside of the environment which typifies the Deep South, they will run headlong into it and in a hurry.

Anyone remember the term: Ugly American?  Ba-da-bing...

You are right about this, Loren.  My former inlaws have never been away from their little narrow-minded community and have no desire to do so.  They will never concede to the fact that the world is full of people who look different, speak differently, act differently and believe differently and this is the norm.  And, of course, I am the witch who led their son/brother astray.  

It baffles me when people have the means to travel outside their small communities yet they choose to remain there instead. I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. Could it have something to do with the tribal mentality of the religion?

I think it has to do with their comfort level ... and its extreme fragility ... and maybe, just maybe, their own recognition that leaving that local area would take them far further out of that comfort zone than they are prepared to cope with.

I agree with your comment entirely. Very well put.

Curious thing is in Matthew 6, Yeshua calls people who pray in public hypocrites who pray to be seen and respected by others.  Christians activists haven't really read this commentary on Christian activism, so they don't keep their prayers to themselves.

This is the perfect example: this kid wasn't sincerely praying, he wasn't trying to ask God for his daily bread.  He was trying to appeal to the general population to allow Christian hegemony to continue in the public sphere.

It wouldn't even have to be an atheistic statement.  All it would have to be is non-christian, and the party would be ON.

Doubtless there was considerable local publicity in this community about the judicial decision to remove prayers from public gatherings.  This was the community's way of saying: "In Your FACE!" back to that decision.  These are people who very likely have their religion in common to the last man, woman and child.  If there is a mosque or a Jewish temple within 10 miles, I'd be surprised.  The community is MONOLITHIC ... and it just doesn't care about diversity because IT HAS NONE.

The question remains as I stated it before: what happens when these people have to deal with someone outside of their clique?  Can they deal equitably with an Arab or a Jew or an atheist without their inbred biases sticking out like the proverbial sore thumb?  I'd be dubious.

And he doesn't believe in the admonishment in the New Testament about praying in secret, not like the hypocrites.

GOPUSA also has this, and the commentary is truly frightening - telling atheists to "get out of our country" "Second Amendment solutions" &c.

It was this kid's valedictorian speech, and I applaud him for speaking his mind!  The speech was his -- not the school's, not the audience's, not the Supreme Court's and not ours.  That I think that he's harmfully deluded might be a matter for blog posts, as is my assertion that he had every right (at least I hope that's still true) to use his once in a lifetime pulpit to make his convictions known.  This is not a church/state issue.  It's one person saying what they believe.  Dog help us when we can't do that.

He expressed a majority opinion.  The test would be how someone expressing a minority opinion is treated.  Sadly, I never got to give my atheistic valedictorian speech because I dropped out after the 9th grade to pursue the Sixties.



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