Hitchens~ a great Atheist, but a great Rationalist??

Many atheists have appreciated Christopher Hitchens' books on religion, such as God is Not Great, and I would suspect that for quite some time (maybe the next ten to twenty years) he will be listed among the great outspoken atheists of this century~ but my question is will he be listed as a Rationalist as well???  While the two usually go hand in hand (although that could be up for debate) Hitchens' has a disturbing record of holding rather indefensible beliefs in regards to his conservative values, especially in relation to the Invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the assassination of Osama Bin Laden.  These views are what I refer to when I question whether he can join the ranks of great rational thinkers, and merely leave the "atheist" camp, so to speak.  Any thoughts on this?

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 Site me ONE instance in the Iraq/Afghan war where we have done the SAME to them???
Yes...We should. And may be some day no one can say. As one united world under the UN, who will not tolerate such oppressive regimes any longer on this planet, But thats not going to happen any time soon (if ever). 

  First, I didnt say the US, I said as a unified world.

Second the suicide bombers and so on are not motivated by the US or any one else disrespecting their "national sovereighnty". They are fueled by hate that has been instilled in them (many) since birth, and cemented with religious extremism. So many of those who lead them ARE concerned with hiding behind "national Sovreighnty" because it protects their ability plunder,rape and kill at will. It allows them to maintain their POWER. The Libyans riding up at this moment seem to be very eager for US support or any support they can find.

or should we be taking a more subtle approach and facilitating the same changes through the citizens of those nations instead of our military?

  In my opinion absolutely, when the situation allows for it. And for you to make the comment about the Arab Sring not being influenced by the US seems rather clarvoyant at this point. I would imagine as with most large political uprisings there are many factors that went into sparking it. Too early to tell.

  And if you are gping to look at the US history of oppossing dictators through military means please be sure to include Everything from 1941 on...there are plenty of goode and bad examples.

 I suppose your saying we should not have assisted in opposing the Soviets? Hold that thought I hope we can continue this discussion but Im afraid i must bail on ya at the moment.

A country based on genocide, slavery, and the exploitation worldwide of littler, browner people invites blowback and well deserves it.  The first genocide of the 20th century was not against the Armenians, but the U.S. against Filipino tribesmen.  The only country ever to use nuclear weapons against a civilian population AFTER Japan had made offers for surrender?  The U.S., a country every good American is deeply ashamed of.


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