I was asked by an Xtian if I decorated for Christmas.
When I answered "NO" - I got the questions I have heard before.
"Are you against Religion? Are you against Christmas."
(Religion is bad - so yes I am against religion)
Any of you here get these same questions?
How do you handle them?
I hear you, I grew up in a household where religion was not that important.. went to church a few times a year and such, but that was about it. For some reason, in the past 10 years or so, while I was going further and further away from believing any kind of dogma, my mom and now my sister are going the other way, both re-post stuff from something called "godvine" on facebook, etc. It is very odd to have someone in the family go in that direction.
The god-people have been increasingly assertive in American culture. There are places in the U.S. now -- like the town where I live now -- where Christian culture predominates and actively suppresses all other belief systems or worldviews. In some environments, one can come to feel like "resistance is fultile."
A high IQ is often evidence that one is good at IQ tests, it isn't evidence that you are 'smart' or nice.
I vaguely remember a short story about a man who acquires the ability of total recall, and uses it to find patterns in vague hints of people's behavior and gain advantage in business -- to a point, until he makes a complete jerk of himself. The increase in one type of "intelligence" did not come with any increase in emotional or social intelligence.
Any idea what the story is, or who wrote it?
Sometimes I say something like "I don't understand the question. I love peace a lot so if "against" means am I ready to fight about something, then I'd say I'm not against religion. If 'against' means do I resist being oppressed by someone else's ideas, then I would have to say 'yes,I am against religion'. Which sene of the word did you mean?" I know: that's a lot of words but sometimes it buys me release from the whole lot of words they were gonna say, trying to convert me to some way of thinking.
Good point Alex - thank you.
Oh man, their bit on OCC is chilling! I can't even imagine most churches agreeing to that knowingly.
i always respond that i am not a practicing pagan, so the trappings of Yule such as a decorated evergreen, holly, etc. are inappropriate, as are the Saturnalia practices of gift exchange and mistletoe, although i do find the observation of winter solstice to be interesting as axial tilt and earth's elliptical orbit are good teaching moments for my kids...
Yes, Xmas, Yuletide are all based on superstition, superstition is based on magic, so I'm anti-superstition!
Superstition is putting magic before knowledge, religions are all based on superstition, I always put knowledge before magic, so I'm anti-superstition and thus anti-religion.
Axial tilt is the reason for the season.
If I were anti-Christmas or anti-religion, I would be throwing water across my sidewalks (which approach the church) to turn them into ice rinks, rather than shovel them.
But gift giving? I have no trouble with gift giving, nor sending holiday cards. I like giving gifts; my family has a tradition of giving "Thursday gifts" or "Wednesday gifts" or any other day in the calendar, just for the heck of it.
(In the matter of holiday cards, our town is so isolated that the tradition of sending cards is a good way to keep up with those we care about, and there are plenty enough secular cards.)
Xmas prejudice is toughest when it comes from family and friends.
What started out as a group of people with email making jokes of my wife and I posing with Santa in a photo degenerated into this conversation.
Do atheist celebrate christmas? I'm not Jewish, so I don't celebrate Hanukkah
Christmas actually predated Christianity by about 2,000 years. - (I provide proof)
I must of touched a nerve
Wow, so much knowledge for someone who does not believe.
Call it something else, because Christmas, is Christ Mass and is a Christian holiday,
according to all dictionaries.
You didn't hit a nerve ?????. I just like a good debate. Joyce and Kevin are devout Christians.
Here is something interesting:
Researchers from the independent Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life phoned more than 3,400 Americans and asked them 32 questions about the Bible, Christianity and other world religions,
famous religious figures and the constitutional principles governing religion in public life.
On average, people who took the survey answered half the questions incorrectly, and many flubbed even questions about their own faith.
Those who scored the highest were atheists and agnostics, as well as two religious minorities: Jews and Mormons.
The results were the same even after the researchers controlled for factors like >age and racial differences.
Not interested in your rubbish. (He then went on to denigrate my liberal political choices and imply I did not have common sense.
The good thing was two people jumped in and spoke up for tolerance. One was upset by Coach's comments and one thought maybe Coach was just trying to get a rise out of me.
The comments did bother me a bit because it wasn't a civil conversation.