Dogly:I equate exploitation based on power to exploitation based on power. I'm an abolitionist. I am against enslaving anyone. That includes the other animals.
No, you are a moral relativist. For your position to remain consistent, you should see no difference between me boiling a slab of corned beef and boiling a baby. People boil corned beef all the time and you take no action, so therefore you would not take any action were I to boil a baby. There is nothing preposterous about this comparison. Remember you and your relativism brought something as vile as slavery into your argument as an equivalency.
You have two options -
* Object that boiling a baby is different and have your argument fall into hypocritical, double standard ridden heap. I would then point out your immense bogusness and use of cheap drama to vicariously express your humanity in trite and irrelevant rhetoric. I would then tell you that if you really wanted to express your humanity you would go out and by a homeless kid a sandwich instead of playing holier-than-thou on 'net forums. Or,
* You would not object and show you are consistent but, like all monomaniacal single issue obsessives (here is where the religion comparison comes in again), you are dangerously sociopathic with displaced narcissism/psychopathy where nothing is of any importance whatsoever unless it directly promotes your cause.
"For your position to remain consistent, you should see no difference between me boiling a slab of corned beef and boiling a baby. People boil corned beef all the time and you take no action, so therefore you would not take any action were I to boil a baby. "
You say I take no action. But it is BECAUSE I am taking the action of speaking on behalf of the cow (corned beef) that you are so furious with me. I feel the same about the human baby. Since my atheist peers are not eating babies, I see no need to defend them. What action could I take to prevent you from eating corned beef? I could call the cops if you tried to kill a baby.
Also, why do you assume that I do nothing for the homeless? Sameer began this thread and was mocked.
If you want to be a vegetarian/vegan, go right ahead. Eating meat in moderation is probably healthier for you. But for you to compare killing animals for food to child abuse exhibits a very narrow method of thinking that sounds just like the pro-life fundies who compare embryonic stem cell research to murder.
To me this whole Vegan thing looks more like religious fundamentalist faith than being reasonable.
Of course it is. It's building a pedestal for yourself, climbing on top of it and denouncing all who you see as corrupt sinners and moral failures. Some people when they abandon god need to find something else holy to fill the void in their lives - they are cripples incapable of living life without doing so. The need victims and scapegoats to feed on. It is also quite similar to antisemitism and homophobia. The need to have someone to blame for evil.