True about letting everyone know the details of their relationship exposes them to harassment. But maybe they live somewhere where people mind their own business. I'm not so much a 'yuk' person about their sex life as about the bringing a kid into the mix doesn't seem necessary in a world full of children with no families.
I say the grandma will be greatgrandma and the grandson will be dad to the baby to be.
Just so you godless atheists know, the bible has god's answer on this, as in all things. Im having trouble reading the chart, but they might be OK, or it might be OK for him but not for her.. I don't know. Anyone have the Koranic answer?
Incest is a fun topic in the bible. Copying episodes here:
In Genesis 9:20-27, Ham sees his father Noah's nakedness. The Talmud suggests that Ham may have sodomized Noah (Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 70a). In more recent times, some scholars have suggested that Ham may have had intercourse with his father's wife. (easy to see how smoeone could make that mistake - "mom, you have testicles!")
In Genesis 19:30–38, after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot's two daughters inebriate their father and trick him into impregnating them.
In one of the tales of a wife confused for a sister, Abraham claims that his wife Sarah is also his half-sister, on his father's side. However, in the rabbinic literature, Sarah is considered to be Abraham's niece (the daughter of his brother, Haran). (of course, if she was the daughter of her father's grandmother, it would cause even more confusion)
In Genesis 38, Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, mistakes his daughter-in-law Tamar for a prostitute while she is veiled, and has sex with her.
The biblical character Amram married his paternal aunt, Jochebed, the mother of Aaron and Moses.
In the Books of Samuel, Amnon, King David's eldest son and heir to the throne, rapes his beautiful half-sister Tamar; two years later Tamar's brother, Absalom, learns of the incident and orders his servants to have Amnon killed.
I remember seing noticeably different stats (more like a doubling or trebling), although the risk remains very low (it would give 1%-1.5% instead of 0.5% with your figures.) Don't take my word on that, though.
There's a famous recent case of sister-brother incest in Germany. The couple has 4 children, 2 of them have both physical and mental problems, but it's not clear how much is due to the special nature of the parents' relationship. Since the mother herself is slightly mentally retarded, these problems may be hereditary. Although it's not at all impossible that incest was a multiplying factor in this case.
Incest avoidance is found empirically to be a cultural universal. We generally find incest to be "yucky" because our biology and evolution has programmed us to think it's "yucky" because incest is not advantageous in an evolutionary sense. Children produced from inbreeding (many incestuous relationships lead to inbreeding) really do have a higher rate of congenital birth defects than children produced from typical breeding conditions. Please keep that last sentence in perspective, it's a high enough rate to have helped produce a biological aversion to incest it doesn't mean that inbreeding couples are having tons of babies with congenital birth defects. It's also more advantageous for an individual of any species to have as much diversity in it's genetic code as possible.
Anyways... the above is the basis for my opinion. I think two consenting adults should be allowed to have sex even if they are grandmother and grandson, father and daughter, brother and sister. I also think it's icky and I'm not wrong to think that.
When children come into the picture is where I start having issues. There are a lot of situations where I think it is completely irresponsible to bring a child into the world. The couple in this article are one of those many situations for me. If you don't think of the children before you have them you are already starting off on the wrong foot as a parent. If I were in a relationship that was so far outside the current cultural norm as to be something that every culture on the planet avoided doing I definitely would be thinking of the children and not having them.
There are a number of behavioral traits found in the human population that appear to be universal. Incest avoidance, some form of religion, music or rhythm (drums are pretty much universal) and of course a structured language are universal traits. When the same general behavior is demonstrated in widely separated (by time and/or space) populations it's strong evidence for a genetic component governing the behavior.
Looking into the sociobiology of the issue, apparently the aversion to genetically related sex partners is due to psychological imprinting while young. " When close proximity during this critical period does not occur—for example, where a brother and sister are brought up separately, never meeting one another—they may find one another highly sexually attractive when they meet as adults"
There is some serious discussion of the biology of the attraction. Here is a link to an adoption reunion site.
Similar Characteristics - Similar genetic makeup can produce similarities in temperament, appearance, and other areas that are common in all birth families to a certain extent. Self-Love - While we may not want to admit it, we generally tend to feel more comfortable with those whose characteristics are similar to our own. Aromatic Identification - It has been suggested that a subconscious memory of the smell of one's own family may be recognized and, if so, would cause an actual physical reaction.
Those causes seem more like pop psychology than real, but it's not an area that's open to much research.
Sexual attraction, and emotional attraction, are mysterious. I couldn't imagine being with someone similar to me, genetically or physically. If anything, I've found that sometimes, the more different from me, the stronger my interest. I have no idea why that's true. Might be some PTSD from my upbringing, but it doesn't matter.
I hope the couple is happy, their child is happy and healthy, and they experience love and years of happiness.
Why are people so surprised by this, there is a place in the UK this is common place..........the Rhondda Valley.
Just kidding any valley-ites.
My wife buys those trashy mags and this has been in a few of them recently......but there are other examples of this kind of incest in the past from them......frightening this still happens, especially in this world where we are able to move around easily to spread their gene pool.