these people are arguing from a damaged and outdated premis. the premis that "metaphysics" is real.
these folks should not be given a public forum like that and given credence for there opinions. they should be in a mental hospital along with all the other victims of delusional thinking.
Fifty years ago, John F. Kennedy spoke directly to the point regarding his catholicism and his determination that it NOT be a factor in his presidency. Now with the tendency of religion to polarize even more so, I note that the candidates themselves are far less likely to disavow their faith as an active factor in their proposed governance or decision-making processes. Indeed, George W. Bush did more public embracing of his beliefs regarding his actions as president than any other chief executive I can think of ... one of multiple reasons why I could throw him further than I would ever trust him.
In a culture and environment where religious expression is all but de rigeur for politicians, how can we remind them that This Is NOT JUST A CHRISTIAN NATION ... or a Mormon, Jewish or non-believing nation ... and if we do remind them, can we expect any reassurance that they'll actually listen?