I can't link using my tablet, but the news is on multiple sites. The state of Indiana passed a religious freedom law that many believe will legalize antigay discrimination.

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Sure does make me proud to be a Hoosier! I think I'll try an experiment. When I go into a restaurant or store to purchase something, I'm going to inform them I'm an atheist. Wonder what responses I'll get?

Daniel, I see no reason to be selective at all.  If Illinois and other states which pass such laws want them so bad, they can learn to deal with the double-edged nature they present.  Thus far, nothing like it has passed in Ohio, and if I have a word to say about it, it never will!

@Pat, that's all wonderful news. And on the local front, there was a piece on the news about a website that is printing a map, with signs, for the business's that aren't going along with with this bullshit. Over twenty new businesses added themselves within 24 hours of the law being passed.

I know.  I met some wonderful people in Indy, especially.

I have been wondering what the effect of Indiana-type laws will have on the hotel business in those states. 
When I was in Holiday, we played Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Peoria (Illinois has a similar law), Louisville, KY, and a LOT of towns in the deep buybull-belt south.  I can just see hotel registration forms with questions like "Do you believe in God?" and/or "Are you a queer?"  If the prospective "guest" gives the wrong answer, or refuses to answer, the hotel would have the right to boot them out the door.  At least 1/3 of Holiday's skaters were gay, and the same could be said of any Broadway show or ballet company....orchestras, too.
How many road companies would choose to avoid those states altogether, and how many voters would be offended, bored, pissed-off at the sudden lack of live entertainment? 
This bullroar could also affect tourism negatively.
Actually, I sense a deep insecurity in the "True Believers."  Their imaginary friend(s) aren't doing Jack Schidt to further their beliefs, and "Jeebus" hasn't shown up.
Pity. *:)) laughing

The right to say no to patrons based on your personal religious beliefs. I don't understand how the sponsors, and supporters, of this bill do not understand they are re enacting Jim Crowe laws, only this time, instead of skin color, it's sexual identity. And all the tax payer money that will be wasted as it is contested, and struck down, in the courts later. How is this good for the citizens of America? At all?


It says a lot that they do not put it on a public ballot either. Just like all the heartbeat legislation that is now being tacked on to budget bills because when put to the public they fail to pass. This type of social legislation shouldn't be allowed to just be added into a bill about highways or simply passed by a legislative majority. The majority isn't to be trusted or we would still have women unable to own property or vote. Minority races would still have to drink out of a different water fountain or count as only 3/5 of a person. LGBTQ would still be prosecuted for being seen together in the streets. We understand the implication of all this legislation, we being the ones who can put aside differences and compromise.


I feel like everyday we are more and more going to be in a society like V's. I hope I am not alive when it happens.

I am afraid that Jim Crow still lives, although the people who support him now keep him in the closet most of the time.

Well that is what religion does best.

Produces stupid laws to discriminate against others as well as idiotic doctrines to restrict their own members so they pay money.

Just typical of what religion in politics does.

As I am a gay man. I think Indiana's RFRA is a big deal because The point of RFRA is not to discriminate against gay Americans. It is supposed to prevent the government from discriminating against religious Americans.

Some background helps here. The federal Resligious Freedom Restoration Act passed in 1993 was declared unconstitutional in its application to states—the court considered it over reach. As a result states began passing their own RFRA's to patch up the deficiency created by the court's decision. Indiana is the twentieth state to do so. However, Indiana's law differs in three important respects:

1) Indiana has no state law protecting homosexuals from discrimination;

2) Indiana's RFRA allows religious objections as a defense in private actions in which government is not involved at all;

3) "exercise of religion" in the Indiana law is defined very broadly. "Sec. 5. As used in this chapter, "exercise of religion" includes any exercise of religion,whether or not compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief."

That the law was passed with the intention of legally justifying discrimination is without question. The reaction has been devastating for the state much to the surprise of legislators and politicians who thought they were passing something that looks neutral on its face and would not be detected as anti-gay. It seems they were worried about counties and municipalities passing anti-discrimination laws and hoped that state action would forestall this.

Now they have a political and public relations problem that will be hard to resolve. The governor is opposed to passing anti-discrimination laws that include sexual orientation, but the business losses will be significant.


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