Would it be too demanding from the US citizens here on A|N, at least those who post in non-localized groups, to avoid starting discussions on general topics, and then write things like our government, our Nation, our country, our Constitution, our education system, or our Health and Welfare, without even mentioning they're writing from an US of A perspective first? At first it may be amusing, after a while it becomes boring and offensive. As if US citizens weren't aware there's a world beyond their borders (a common gripe towards Americans).

It's OK to behave like that in the American Atheists or Texas Heathens groups, I think it's not in, eg, the ORIGINS group or the main forum. I'm well aware that most of its members are from the USA, but isn't A|N an international community?

Pardon the rant, but I've been around for only a few months, and I've seen this happen at least half a dozen times already. I thought it had to be reported.

Thanks for your attention and consideration.

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Wasn't Axis of Anal a porn version of W's 2002 State of the Union speech?

Folks, I don't think this is a matter of political correctness or even etiquette. I think it's just confusing when people don't define their terms. If you say things like, "Well, our constitution says such and such," without specifying which country you're talking about, it can lead to head-scratching and unnecessary visits to a person's profile (which may not prove illuminating). If you want people to understand you easily, it pays to be a little more specific in a global forum such as this. The point of writing is to be understood. It's the author's job to make that happen.

And as a US-American (specificity added because I care about my Canadian and Mexican readers), I think it's perfectly legit to point out when my fellow US-Americans are being arrogant ignoramuses. In fact, I believe it is my patriotic duty to object when I see my country doing something wrong, or its citizens supporting something bad or just being assholes. After all, if I want to complain about bad people and policies in other countries, I have to be fair and complain about the same in my country. Double standards are not OK.
As usual, you are the hammer that hits the nail on it's head.
The flag icon is a good idea. It would add a reference point, a dash of color, and a little fun to the proceedings.
it's all about accurate communication

Exactly. My apologies for not making that clear enough in my original post. I didn't mean to offend or express disdain. Blame the language barrier for that.
We don't ask for politically correctness, we don't want apologies, we only beg for a little bit of courtesy.

Perhaps not, but there is no tolerance to Americans and their foibles from Europeans and Australians in general - only a demand that we tolerate you.

I was raised overseas during the Cold War - at a time when Americans were also pretty well hated but no one wanted the protections of the US military to leave Western Europe. My philosophy was that I was a package deal - you get my missiles and you get me and thousands like me. I remember traveling with my family one summer and being turned away from campgrounds because they were for the Swiss only or the French only or the Spanish only.

That made quite an impact on a child whose father was leading military operations to stop the Soviets should they launch an attack on Germany.

There is not a country on this planet that is not guilty of protectionism and jingoism. There is not a country anywhere that doesn't have some measure of nationalism, whether it be political, religious or sports related. America's nationalism is more visible because America is more visible economically, socially and militarily.

If England was handing out hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid every year, was fighting a war with noble goals but questionable execution and housed Hollywood, I suspect it would be in much the same position as the US is today.

It is trendy to disparage the United States but it is as trendy to go see the latest Hollywood blockbuster.

America is a young country - rough, violent and somewhat self centered. All in all it kind of reminds me of the Crusades.
Americans ethnocentric, NOUS?

I offer this video as proof of how open-minded and sophisticated Americans are.
As much as a Canadian I'd love to jump on the gripe about America bandwagon... we here on AN do have to face a rather stern fact that the US has more intolerance toward Atheism than most other countries.

Their fundamentalism is so engrained into their society, that Atheists literally receive death threats when in the public limelight.

Something we here in Canada don't often see.

So yeah, they're boisterous, yeah, they're ignorant... but they also have to deal with living in an almost 3rd world nation while having the population numbers of a 1st world nation.

Managing to hear anything at all from fellow Atheists in that nation is nothing short of really freaking lucky... they're two steps short of locking their borders down and silencing anything shy of flag waving Jesus freaks.
Sigh. Ok....be careful when you hop onto the bandwagon....don't twist anything.
oh really... I'm so sorry about that, but you must understand why we Americans are like that. Where are you from?

I think a big reason why Americans are so closed minded is because we are sooooooooooooooo far away from everyone else. We get plenty of immigrants from other countries, but the country is so big that a lot of us don't encounter them on a daily basis. We are so used to being around people who have lived here for at least 10 years.

European countries are so much smaller and clustered together that I'm sure that if you live there you are constantly exposed to other cultures. We tend to get so "American minded" in our isolation that we forget about how other governments are run (indeed, I was never taught any system of government except American, English, Nazi, outdated monarchies, and the gist of communism. We don't extensively study other cultures) America is TRULY home of the brainwashed. The intelligent are still victims of it.

I'd just like to apologize on our behalf, but technically it is not our fault... we were taught to be highly patriotic and it is hard to get out of the sheep mindset no matter how hard we try.
I thought I heard knocking. And I always wondered why the St. Lawrence Seaway didn't start in Anchorage. Oh, and thanks for sacking the White House. We were gonna remodel anyhow. You missed a golden opportunity for a repeat performance during the Bush years, but we're using the White House again, so please hold off for a while.
There's a lot of stuff missing from US history textbooks, but yeah, the War of 1812 is given short shrift. Like what did Napoleon and Tolstoy have to do with it? I like the overture, but why did a Russian write it? And did we really have a president married to a snack cake? Very confusing.

As to your point about the US never losing on its own soil, I'd say the Civil War was a loss on US soil, at least for some states. And we missed an opportunity to shed Texas (I liked 'em better as an independent republic), so there's another case where we lost by winning, and somehow, that includes the Bushes again. Speaking of, I'll have to read up on how the US gained Maine out of the 1812 affair. One does not usually gain territory by being invaded and having one's capital sacked.
The Confederate States of America seceded. If we are considering them "states" in the correct term meaning "nations" then yes, the conquored territories lost. The United States won the war, however.

and OH if we only shed texas...


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