Would it be too demanding from the US citizens here on A|N, at least those who post in non-localized groups, to avoid starting discussions on general topics, and then write things like our government, our Nation, our country, our Constitution, our education system, or our Health and Welfare, without even mentioning they're writing from an US of A perspective first? At first it may be amusing, after a while it becomes boring and offensive. As if US citizens weren't aware there's a world beyond their borders (a common gripe towards Americans).

It's OK to behave like that in the American Atheists or Texas Heathens groups, I think it's not in, eg, the ORIGINS group or the main forum. I'm well aware that most of its members are from the USA, but isn't A|N an international community?

Pardon the rant, but I've been around for only a few months, and I've seen this happen at least half a dozen times already. I thought it had to be reported.

Thanks for your attention and consideration.

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SNM, I'm going to make an executive decision and award you the prize for most thoughtful preamble to a toilet paper comment. As to squatting, I'm sure one's acceptance of the practice is entirely culturally determined, though I suspect people with knee problems would have difficulty.
It's awfully hard to keyboard while bent over backwards, but... keyboard I must.

From the homepage of A|N:

The World's (emphasis mine) Largest Social Networking Site Exclusively For Nontheists!

Can't copy-and-paste the bit about looking for people to translate A|N into various languages. I would think that if this site were intended for US citizens/residents only, there'd be a big "ENGLISH ONLY!" sign on the front door.
I understood you perfectly, Verne.

It's simply a matter of clarity. If some is writing a blog entry, then they would be expected to say my government, my country, etc. It's that person's page and thoughts, and a first person presentation of those thoughts is reasonable, I think. Forum or group boards about general topics may require geographic detail, sure. It's common sense folks and clear communication is what's needed.
Atheist Nexus is an international website administered from the USA. There are many, many non-American members here who have worked hard since its inception to make it the international success that it is.

Most of us have no real issues with the very many wonderful Americans we meet here. Our issues are with those Americans who are so insular that they don't seem to realize they are part of the reason why America has such a bad name, internationally.

If you're tired of apologizing for being a citizen of the United States, may I suggest that you stop acting like part of the problem, and become part of the solution.
As mentioned several times above, it is simply a matter of upbringing and habit. In addition, it's simply a stereotype or generalization. There are 325M of us and we have a just a bit of diversity, you know? Plus, it's hardly a trait unique to Americans; visit a Premiere League football site for examples of another nationality being a bit...insular.

I don't see it as something to for which to apologize but just an idea to keep in mind. Realize that the topic and the audience could be subject to confusion if you are not specific about the nation.
I don't appreciate your snide remarks because we don't follow all the little politically correct nuances you Europeans, Australians and New Zealanders apparently love so much.

We don't ask for politically correctness, we don't want apologies, we only beg for a little bit of courtesy.

What about this: when I joined A|N, I perused the older discussions for a while. One of them was about, if memory serves, evolution, but it digressed onto Middle-Eastern politics. Someone jumped in to comment, and wrote something like "our government's policies". Now, in this context, a look at his profile image and name suggested that this guy could very well have posted from Egypt, Lebanon or a similar place, and that's what I assumed first. Except under this assumption, this part of his comment didn't make any sense at all. To understand his point of view, I had to check his profile and realized he was an US citizen.

Do you think this behavior is perfectly acceptable? I don't. I can understand and even forgive this leniency when it happens, but choosing to turn a blind eye on this issue would be nothing less than arrogant.
(that includes the US citizens who are bending over backwards to be so urbane)

Like I said back on the second day of this post:

Many Americans think the earth's axis runs right through Kansas. Some think it runs right through their asses.
Wasn't Axis of Anal a porn version of W's 2002 State of the Union speech?

Folks, I don't think this is a matter of political correctness or even etiquette. I think it's just confusing when people don't define their terms. If you say things like, "Well, our constitution says such and such," without specifying which country you're talking about, it can lead to head-scratching and unnecessary visits to a person's profile (which may not prove illuminating). If you want people to understand you easily, it pays to be a little more specific in a global forum such as this. The point of writing is to be understood. It's the author's job to make that happen.

And as a US-American (specificity added because I care about my Canadian and Mexican readers), I think it's perfectly legit to point out when my fellow US-Americans are being arrogant ignoramuses. In fact, I believe it is my patriotic duty to object when I see my country doing something wrong, or its citizens supporting something bad or just being assholes. After all, if I want to complain about bad people and policies in other countries, I have to be fair and complain about the same in my country. Double standards are not OK.
As usual, you are the hammer that hits the nail on it's head.
The flag icon is a good idea. It would add a reference point, a dash of color, and a little fun to the proceedings.
it's all about accurate communication

Exactly. My apologies for not making that clear enough in my original post. I didn't mean to offend or express disdain. Blame the language barrier for that.
We don't ask for politically correctness, we don't want apologies, we only beg for a little bit of courtesy.

Perhaps not, but there is no tolerance to Americans and their foibles from Europeans and Australians in general - only a demand that we tolerate you.

I was raised overseas during the Cold War - at a time when Americans were also pretty well hated but no one wanted the protections of the US military to leave Western Europe. My philosophy was that I was a package deal - you get my missiles and you get me and thousands like me. I remember traveling with my family one summer and being turned away from campgrounds because they were for the Swiss only or the French only or the Spanish only.

That made quite an impact on a child whose father was leading military operations to stop the Soviets should they launch an attack on Germany.

There is not a country on this planet that is not guilty of protectionism and jingoism. There is not a country anywhere that doesn't have some measure of nationalism, whether it be political, religious or sports related. America's nationalism is more visible because America is more visible economically, socially and militarily.

If England was handing out hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid every year, was fighting a war with noble goals but questionable execution and housed Hollywood, I suspect it would be in much the same position as the US is today.

It is trendy to disparage the United States but it is as trendy to go see the latest Hollywood blockbuster.

America is a young country - rough, violent and somewhat self centered. All in all it kind of reminds me of the Crusades.



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