TNT666 and George;
The whole point of my post was to distinguish between faith and belief.
I maintained that
"If you drop a brick, you move your toes. That’s belief."
"Belief is when you lack evidence to make a reasoned decision but descend to deciding based on emotions."
No, TNT, that’s “faith”. (and it’s not a good idea, or polite, to yell “Hell no !!!”, especially when you are wrong.)
Belief is assumed as a result of experience, observation, or even the scientific method. I believe in gravity. I don’t have to engage faith to know to move my toe when I drop a brick.
George has it right.
The only thing I might add is that when George says:
"Beliefs that lack evidence are simply unjustified beliefs."
he is essentially describing “faith”.
Beliefs that lack evidence are simply unjustified beliefs. Rational beliefs are justified using rational judgement. Knowledge is generally defined as those beliefs which are both justified and true.
Using your definitions above, you can justify a negative, but you cannot prove a negative? Am I right?
Maybe! I think that something true is something we have evidence for.
Could I reword your definition of Faith?
Faith is the belief you reached without evidence.
If you don't mind, I will continue to use belief.
Just providing the source in case anybody wanted to easily pass it on.
I think the discussion is mostly about how important it is to carefully unpack what seem to be 'simple statements.' I find the thesis a generally useful heuristic and, like most rules of them, there will be situations in which it does not apply. Emerson's quote about 'a foolish consistency' comes to mind.
Only a tremendous self could think god is reality? I believe you are erroneously attaching arbitrary and negative attributes the concept of self. It is the grouping of cells in our heads, locally, that allows for logic and reason to exist and you are saying that the denial of reality is centered around the thing that makes reason and logic possible.
Unless you are talking about some Freudian shit, or a improperly inflated sense of self.
I see my ability to 'run' my causal mental machinery, as an ego, is what makes me strong and human. And that faith, or willful ignorance, has more to do with surrendering one's reasoning mind to emotion, through god, or turning it away from reality.