I wanted to put this question out there to see how strongly everyone feels on this subject. Being that most of us trust in scientific fact and reasoning, I was wondering if everyone is absolutely, undeniably, 100% sure that a god doesn't exist.  I personally take into account that there is no proof of any cosmic creator so therefore I am about 99.9999% sure that there is no god. However we all agree that science is an ever evolving field and I don't think that there will ever be any proof to support the existence of a supreme being, but I can't be 100% sure until there is concrete proof against one. I would like to know what all of your thoughts on this.  

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Actually, that's one one hundredth of one percent.  Not much possibility to allow.  I'm not that certain about much of anything.

Why do I even have to say I don't believe in any gods. It seems I'm allowing for the possible existence of some god(s) when I say that I don't believe in any.

Which is to say, I think there is no god. It's not that I simply don't believe in god. I think the point of the original post was that science cannot disprove god which opens up a mess of an argument.

I'm okay with the idea of being your Supreme Being, but don't look to me for more than you get from that other claimant to the position.

Asking this question to an atheist appears to be funny. Why an atheist should not be 100% certain tthat there is no god? If anyone has even 0.1% doubt Tthen it means that there is that much chance of a god's existance. This is not atheism, because if there is such a chance of gods existance then one may want to pray to him, in case.... Actually, most believers do not fully believe in god and many must be believeing only to the extent of 0.1%, otherwise why should there be so much crime, so much cruely, selfishness etc? The belief in god is largely due a fear, just in case he exists! No atheist should think in this manner.

Madhukar, in the West, Plato left what Catholicism used during the Inquisition: an accusation of witchcraft is evidence of witchcraft.

Did any thinkers in your part of the world leave a similar idea?

You will never have concrete proof that your refridgerator cannot fly when you are sleeping either, but trust me all the evidence says it cannot.

Slippery slope.

I realize some of us atheists are so married to the rules of logic that we refuse to say we are 100% positive there is no God because there is no way to be entirely certain.

So for those of you who feel that way, I'm going to tell you about my God whose name is Pruitt. I can't prove to you he doesn't exist but he's spoken to me in my brain and told me he's real.

Those of you who say you can't be 100% certain there is no God, do you now afford the same level of possibility for Pruitt? If not, why? There is the same amount of evidence for the existence of the Abrahamic God as there is for Pruitt.

This is my problem with worshipping at the alter of logic. It turns logic into a religion in it's own right. By creating this small gap of certainty, we leave room for all manner of things to be stuffed in it. Over time it will never grow smaller, only bigger as you need to widen the gap to allow for more and more things to fit in there that you can't be certain if they exist or not.

There is the same amount of evidence for unicorns, zombies, leprechauns, pixies, and fairies. In fact, there is more evidence for those than there is for Pruitt if a book written about these things, as it is for the Abrahamic God, is evidence.

But we all know unicorns don't exist. We know leprechauns and pixies and zombies do not exist and can say it with 100% certainty. Just because a human mind fabricated these fictitious creatures does not mean they need to have the possibility of existence reserved for them in the minds of the rest of humanity. Otherwise, every time a human uses their imagination to conjure up something and then opens their mouth, thus entering their creation into the public domain, we would need to consider the possibility of existence for all of those things.

To me, this is a failure of logic and why I feel atheists should marry themselves to empirical evidence instead. Logic has it's uses and can bring us down the long path but empirical evidence is that last 0.0000000001% and I for one am not ashamed to claim, due to a lack of empirical evidence, that I am 100% certain there is no god(s), unicorns, leprechauns, etc.

Bravo. This is well spelt out. It is what I have been writing in this thread these last two years ever since it started. 

The short of it is: can everything be expected to be explained by science, or can't it?

Those who doubt a little start saying 6 out of 7 like Richard Dawkins [wrongly] does, or they say something like 99.999999999999999999999999% 

Yet those who won't say 100% or 7 out of 7 are letting a bit of the supernatural pick at their brains; and I will have none of that inside my head. 

Physics has explained everything so far, and has the potential to explain the rest.

I rest my case with the depth, magnificence and awesomeness of physics. 

And like I have been saying for quite some time, we don't even need science at all to state with certainty that god does not exist. It is an epistemological fact that something without a noncontradictory identity cannot exist.

"without a noncontradictory identity"

Why not just say "with a contradictory identity"? With all due respect some of your sentences are unnecessarily ponderous, man. Keep it simple.

I like my way better, but I thank you for your advice. I'm pretty sure people reading these threads can handle the overly cumbersome placement of out and con, but if I reply to you, I will try and make it extra simple, with as few syllables as possible.




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