I wanted to put this question out there to see how strongly everyone feels on this subject. Being that most of us trust in scientific fact and reasoning, I was wondering if everyone is absolutely, undeniably, 100% sure that a god doesn't exist.  I personally take into account that there is no proof of any cosmic creator so therefore I am about 99.9999% sure that there is no god. However we all agree that science is an ever evolving field and I don't think that there will ever be any proof to support the existence of a supreme being, but I can't be 100% sure until there is concrete proof against one. I would like to know what all of your thoughts on this.  

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The law of identity, one of the most basic fundamentals of existence and cognition, is enough that additional proof is not necessary. As if I need to somehow prove that I am not currently on Jupiter. My presence here proves I am not as any essential characteristic anyone can possibly give to a god is total abject bullshit and contradictory. It is not wise to say we cannot prove a negative. God is 0% possible. And if you disagree, you are saying that there is a quality of god that has a greater than 0% chance of existing. I would like to hear from a so called agnostic atheist what that essential characteristic that could possibly exist is and I will tell you that it is either metaphor, contradictory, or something we already has a real term for, like alien. God is now, has always been, and will always be total fucking nonsense.

Not quite 100% but pretty close. If there is a god, it probably isn't one of the major religions' concepts of god.


1) The virgin birth god born on the winter solstice has been used one too many times not to be a rip-off of Horus.


2) Why does god perceive women as inferior, and gays as sinners? God has the same attitude as a sexist homophobe?

3) Why are all records of the existence of gods tracked back to religious doctrine? Why don't the Romans have records of the crucifixion of Jesus, or at least Peter? Peter was supposedly crucified upside down. One would think his request to be crucified upside down would make its way into government documentation.

Sure there was a fire in Rome in 64 AD. It's hard to believe all documentation of Christ's records were destroyed. And why not the 3 Persian Kings who witnessed a virgin birth? After dwelling across the desert 6 months to witness a miraculous birth, they failed to record it.  




If there is a god, it hasn't revealed itself to humanity, because there isn't any evidence. If.


From what I've read it appears that after 150 yrs of "Biblical Archaeology", textual criticism & philosophical wrangling advanced theologians have given up on the God of the Bible. They have not even come up with a completely satisfying notion of what the term "God" really means. This is not a very concrete result especially considering the amount of time & mental energy that has been expended upon it. If this were a scientific research program its funding would have been pulled a century ago.

However, none of this is ever communicated to the faithful as rarified philosophical debate does not put bums in pews. Nor is it very good PR to admit that our advanced research program, which you the congregation have sponsored so generously for all theses years, has been totally inconclusive.

My point is that debating the probability of the existence, or nonexistence, of our Sunday school idea of "God" is pointless. If the greatest minds in Christendom cannot even agree on what is meant by the word "God" there is no way to meaningfully discuss the matter.

There's only one voice that can enlighten humanity as to the existence of a creator, and that voice is eternally silent. If one is gullible enough to believe what is written by ancient goat herders not knowledgeable enough to understand why the sun continues to rise and set daily, then there used to be a god that wasn't so shy, and that demonstrated its existence. What happened that this god no longer has that capability, or no longer chooses to exercise that capability? Could it be that its existence was finite, much like the rest of life throughout the universe? Maybe it's dead? Can we then just move on, please? Worshipping a dead god is about as useful as walking a dead dog.

I agree Jay.

99.9999999999999% certain there is no god.  In practical terms, that is 100%.

"Good enough for government work." was one of my engg. prof's favourite expressions. I think we have a practical measure of certainty here that we can work with. Actually, there are enough inconsistencies within both the New & Old Testaments to render the whole point moot without reference to any other sources.

I'm 100% certain that I don't "know" whether there's a god or not, but since the evidence is sorely and eternally lacking that would be required to elicit belief in one, I have no choice but to act as though there is not one. I don't need certitude to support a belief or lack of one. Christians, Muslims and Jews have been doing just that for centuries.

How can there be any proof of something  that  is complete fantasy?   It would be like Snow White  and the Seven dwarfs  were  actually  real.....God  is an imaginary myth   created  by Man  to cope  with reality  of the time..... Believing in a god made  many people able  to cope with  the many  tragic  circumstances abounding  in the natural world.....There was no   knowledge  of anything  to speak of  during this time so believing  in an all powerful  god  must have  been  quite  helpful......However  in 2014  with the incredible leaps  in  science and  so   many  questions  answered about  our  evolution  and  climate...it is no longer  necessary  to believe  in a supreme  being....Humans  can now  rely  on themselves for living  a life and  surviving depending on their  own  actions by  Rational  thinking.......

Belief in a god...any god...is just that - a belief. It does not depend upon any evidence whatsoever. So, a god could exist or not exist. Either status is compatible with belief that one does in fact exist. Since by definition gods exist outside of physical reality, and evidence does not, by definition there can be no verifiable and substantiated evidence of one's existence or non-existence. Since I aim to live my life and make my life decisions based upon evidence, I am constrained to withhold belief in anything that is irrational, illogical and unsupported by evidence. Since it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to evidence the non-existence of that which does not exist, and since the claim that a god does exist has yet to be evidenced with anything remotely resembling verification or substantiation, the rational, logical position seems to be unavoidable, that being that no such entity does in fact exist. 

Since by definition gods exist outside of physical reality, and evidence does not, by definition there can be no verifiable and substantiated evidence of one's existence or non-existence.

Gods have often been claimed to change physical reality in a supernatural way.  That's called a miracle.  A god is thought to be intervening in reality to give a message to a human being. 

However, miracles are thought to happen in a sporadic way, because they are caused by the will of a god. 

It would be difficult to scientifically study miracles because of this.  You couldn't do experiments in a lab to study miracles. 

But, perhaps there could be a truly verifiable miracle anyways. 

Would a verifiable miracle prove the existence of God to you?

Or would you just expand the definition of "natural" to include miracles?



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