Is Obama Too Compromised By Investor or Corporate Money to Push Republicans To the Wall?

Are Congressional Democrats too compromised by money from the same sources?

If you follow the news you've heard what President Obama will propose in the SOTU address.

Unless the Republicans in Congress do an about face, Obama and the Democrats can hope for little more than to arm Democrats for the 2016 elections.

What do you want them to do?

What will they do?

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Tom, we are almost at the point where it doesn't matter too damn much what any of them do. I hate to say that but it looks that way to me.

And I hate to agree with that statement, but it's most likely correct.  I wonder if this system can still be saved and, if so, by what?  This SOTU speech will be political theater, and virtually none of the President's proposals will see the light of day in a Republican congress.  They aren't meant to -- it's a flag waving exercise.  It will be the jumping off point for the 2016 elections, and could be seen as a rebuke to the foregone Clinton conclusion as much as to the Republicans.

We progressives get it -- our next President will not be Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, nor will it be Rand Paul or Ted Cruze.  It will be some Wall Street beholden sycophant like Clinton or Romney, with very little to distinguish them from one another.  We probably won't reach a comprehensive agreement with Iran, and so our defining war machine will take over that debate,  We probably won't reign in banks to any significant degree, and so will remain economically subject to their whims.  We probably wont much change our attitude toward Israel, no matter what it does, or stop killing vaguely perceived enemies, and so will continue to rate the ire of much of the world.

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If our choices are

Want and get shafted

or

Want not and get not,

our wants might be those of alpha dogs and we ain't alpha dogs.

If the former they smile; if the latter we smile?

After further consideration, my pessimist friend Bertold; we can choose:

1) do something and maybe don't get shafted, or

2) do nothing and get out the lubricant.

That leaves #1.

Damn, I've been an activist long enough. It's someone else's turn.

Ha! "I don't know and I don't care" was my only line in a fourth grade play and the teacher told me I wasn't convincing.

Bertold, are you sure you want to clip the wings of profit, either short term or long term?

Profit comes from customers.

The problem is that companies, without customers' consent, use profits to bribe politicians to pass laws that help companies and harm customers.

I want employees to own the companies they work for.

If employee-ownership doesn't work, then we humans are no better than bacteria.

Lol

Having decided that money is speech, the country should not be surprised that big money has more influence on the course of government than it should. The situation is by no means new—Kevin Phillips made the case in his 2002 book, Wealth and Democracy, and things have only gotten worse.

We no longer live in a democracy, rather we live in a plutocracy—government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. It is unlikely to change anytime soon when both political parties are beholden to rich donors to finance their election campaigns.

I am not sure that people mind this much. We seem generally to accept that making a lot of money entitles people to power and influence and we are quite possibly ready to conclude that money determines what is true.

Is Obama Too Compromised By Investor or Corporate Money to Push Republicans To the Wall?

What are the options for the Democrats?

Do nothing. 

Cry, complain, beg, plead, demand, rage, feel helpless.

Negotiate, compromise (this requires all parties wanting a just solution). 

Build a coalition of like-minded people; small business, wage-workers, environmentalists, etc.

Expose bought legislators; those people or corporations that bought them.

What do you want the Democrats to do?

Build a coalition of like-minded people; small business, wage-workers, environmentalists, etc. 

Expose bought legislators; those people or corporations that bought them. 

What will the Democrats do?

Cry, complain, beg, plead, demand, rage, feel helpless. 

Joan, I fear you have described the Dems well.

Obama's rhetoric might be more than they can handle.

what a gloomy crowd

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