This is a Two-Part posting. The other part is in the science category.
Now, if you're a member of Think Atheist, you may or may not recall that I posted a question thread on Global Warming because there was something I was ignorant of. I was taught a bit there, which I appreciated.
So why this thread?
I am a fan of Led Zeppelin. Now, this band, as those who are fans know, stayed away from the political scene. They were once asked about the American political climate in the 70's, and I believe it was John Paul Jones who famously gave the short, sweet, and final answer: "We're musicians, not politicians."
So, of course, it's no surprise that you can find Led Zeppelin fans from all political persuasions. However, sometimes you find yourself hoping that, when you are a fan of a band such as Led Zeppelin, you are in good, intelligent company. However, sometimes, that can be proven wrong, such as the case with the following thread on the Official Forum (you will not have to join to see it):
Is it ok to make fun of Global Warming?
(My displayed name on the forum is Nathan, and yes, when I first started posting on that thread, I took the more Conservative view. I am ashamed to admit that I made a few arguments that were idiotic. My move to a more Liberal view of politics [and, as a small result, an acceptance of the science of Climate Change] happened as recently as my deconversion to atheism... within the last 4 or 5 months.)
You will notice an interesting trend on the thread (one I think I may have taken part in myself at first) to confuse weather with climate. It was most obvious on page 16 with post 317. About 9 posts up, I pointed out that climate and weather are two separate things. Post 317 was the response:
1. The meteorological conditions, including temperature, precipitation, and wind, that characteristically prevail in a particular region.
2. A region of the earth having particular meteorological conditions: lives in a cold climate.
It's possible to have cold weather in a warming climate, but if you are consistently reaching record lows in a region, then the "climate" is not warming. "Typical weather" of a region is "Climate". Nice try.
And it's not easy to respond. What saddens me most about it is that what they are reacting to, I think, is not so much the science as it is the politicization of the issue. It's become a political battle which, clearly, has fucked the whole thing up.
(Now, a little later on after that, I did point out that, in my view, Climate Change or not doesn't matter. What does matter is that we live on this planet and it's our job to take care of this planet regardless, because we want to live in a habitat that is habitable... or clean and healthy and can sustain life naturally. The two responses I got to it agreed [although they did point out that it's the politicization they hate], though after that I was largely ignored.)
How do you counter the whole confusing weather with climate thing, especially when the USA is seeing some seriously cold weather right now (even southern Florida saw the low 40's!)? I would like to respond to them, but I don't know how. So I guess I'm asking for help.