How many atheists here, though not believing in God, Satan, heaven or hell, still believe in some kind of conscious existence after death ? Anyone ? I, for one, do not believe in any kind of conscious existence after death. Death is the end.

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"Wonderful to discover this online community."

I guess you could refer to the happy people you met in your coma as an "offline community".


Sorry, just couldn't help myself. Welcome to A/N.

"Offline community?!"  he he he he he 

I think my after death experience will be a great deal like my before birth experience.

"I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it". Mark Twain.

I read somewhere of Mark Twain's dislike for endless harp music.


What is your point ? Do you believe in life after death or no ? Or are you agnostic about it ? And that ringing in your ears is probably tinnitus, a lot of people have it, me included.

Because belief in god is a construct of the human mind, there is no reason there should be a heaven or hell for human beings and certainly not for other creatures, including insects. There is no reason to know or even be interested in the numbers of species that have existed on Earth, at least as it relates to the question, "Is there life after death?"

If you are interested in all the varieties of species throughout the entire time of reproducible life, a good phylogenetic tree will reveal species over time, beginning with the Cambrian Explosion 3.8 billion years ago. That is 3,800,000,000 years ago. 

If you are Young Earth Creationist, this information is irrelevant to you because of the literal interpretation of the beginning of life is claimed to be 5,000 to 10,000 years ago. This silly figure just does not stand up to the evidence. 

If you refer to reincarnation, that, too is a human construct and has no basis in fact. What does recycle is atoms, and these start in the explosion of a star in the form of energy, not as critters, human or otherwise. 

Ringing in your ears, most probably, is tinnitus. It is caused by your heart beat creating changes in the muscles of or around your ear, or because of nerve damage of or around your ear. These are both normal, many people have them. Earwax build-up can cause it, or medications, ear infections, dental problems, whiplash, changes in air pressure, high blood pressure, among other causes. A physician should be able to diagnose and treat the condition. 

They can be quit unpleasant, and need medical attention. 


You are one intelligent lady. You blow me away. You must have done (still do) a lot of research.

Well, thank goodness. I thought you were a whacko and needed a little reality check. So, all these words later, back and forth, and what have we gained. No, I am not smart, I just know how to look things up. The computer ... a great tool ... except she has been giving me fits. Life goes on after computer failure?  

We say there is nothing after death.

Xians say there are wonderful things after death, but they're hanging on here until their knuckles turn white. Why is that?

They taught me to believe in life after death when they taught me all of that god business. Today I would ask you, "is there electricity to the light bulb once the switch is turned off?" It's pretty obvious until some idiot starts talking about your "duality of being." Sorry, Charlie. I don't have a soul. I became one. There is a difference.

After life, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly.

Physicist report all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. All the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her/his eyes, that those photons created within her/him constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.

There is no need for faith; indeed, you should not have faith. Know that you can measure, that scientists have measured precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time.

You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves science is sound and your energy is still around.

According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly.

~ Aaron Freeman




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