I have heard that little maxim from my parents when it comes to homosexuality and the discussions we've had about same sex marriage. The following article is significant because it does a nice job explaining the history behind many of the narrow views of the Evangelicals: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-dudley/evangelicals-gay-marr....
I plan to share it on Facebook. I often wonder if atheists should turn the phrase on its head and say something like: Love the Believer, Debate the Belief System.
I never really understood the saying either because it comes across so judgmental and self-righteous to say to somebody: I love you as a person but you choose your faults (which I will define for you) and could change them if you really wanted to (IE: Loved Jesus/Jesus will 'save' you). It's the image of a parent figure making a child of everybody else and expecting blind obedience 'because dad said so'.
I will support a person's right to privacy and their private thoughts and beliefs are of no concern of mine. When their actions are unjust (discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation, for example) or hurt others, that's the point I will feel the need to 'do the right thing' or at least say something so my silence isn't mistaken for acceptance.
Exactly. I took a little time to research what the term 'love' means in the New Testament and wonder if today's evangelical Christians take the time to ever look back and see how Jesus (their prophet, not mine) defined the obligations of love. The way I understand it, it sounds like the term was meant in the Greek connotation 'agape'...the deepest affection, loving others based on doing good things for others. NOT picking and choosing aspects to love/hate. A more charitable, compassionate implication.
It is easy to love others of our family and people who already think like us and act like us...the Greek connotation 'phileo'....brotherly love means we already LIKE the person! It's not difficult to accept the faults of people we already like! So the challenge for Christians who 'hate' homosexuality is to broaden their definition to universal love. There seems to be a tendency for even the most culturally conservative people to accept the gay people in their 'inner circle' of family and friends...why can't they broaden the circle?
His study shows that it is possible for individuals to consciously love another class of humans even while unwittingly supporting systematic discrimination against them.
I disagree. That isn't love. You don't love someone by viewing them as "less than" you. Love is just a convenient word to dress up the nastiness of their view.
But a fairly decent article, nonetheless. But I think he gives fundies too much credit, personally.
Evangelicalism still has an orientation against social change, still bases views on pseudoscience, still has a simplistic and overconfident approach to biblical interpretation, and still is unwilling to tolerate those who disagree.I think that was the author, Jonathan Dudley, saying fundamentalists/evangelicals are backward and intolerant! His book, "Broken Words: The Abuse of Science and Faith in American Politics" sounds like one I'd like to read.