Whenever I come out Atheist .. they assume I must have no ethics or morals whatsoever and that I am willing to do just about anything --- like lie, cheat and steal.

Anyone else have this happen to them?

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Steph and Jonathan, I was puzzled when Jonathan responded as he did, and I surely honor his request. On the other hand, "Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist" is relevant to the subject, but then I am known to go far afield in making connections. The connection I made here is why anyone would use the word, "depraved" associated with atheism, especially when compared to challenges some people face.

I was caught by surprise, Jonathan, when you responded and am curious to understand what your thoughts or ideas helped you face your particular challenge. 

I faced the realization religion not only harmed me and my family, it prohibited me from developing healthy principles. Life, with its bumps, requires critical thinking. When I stopped hoping, praying, submitting, my life got better. 

Reading about Steven Hawking over the years helped me enormously in finding both reason and justification for meeting my challenges. Here is a video I hope will convey the idea I am trying to pass on. I hope audio tells the story. My old eyes get tired reading, so I resort to videos, even if I don't watch, but listen. 

Yes I also wonder why the association with the word depraved and atheist. It's horrible that they think that about us.

Its because they think that morality comes from god.  So in their minds, one who doesn't believe in god is one who doesn't believe in morality.  Sadly, the media often ignores us so we don't get that many chances to prove them wrong.

Often, when I'm told that I'm not a good person because I don't believe in god, I just tell them "The symbol of your religion is an object that was used in one of the most horrific forms of execution in history, and you have the nerve to call me immoral?"

Sure I don't make any friends in those arguments, but if they're gonna be dicks to me, I'm gonna be an even bigger to them.

Try this one instead: "So without the fear of god's punishments or the expectation of the rewards of infinite bliss, you would just be a raving homicidal maniac? No? Then I guess you don't need god to be moral, do you?"

Thanks Phoenix-Wanderer I will try that one.

That's a brilliant response, Pheonix-Wanderer. Thanks.

Thanks Ruth. It's just what I do. :-D

Oh cool! You are right Chris. Thanks for the advise. I'll try that one too.

Better you. They recommend a shrink for me every time I reveal am atheist.

Jabal, In my humble opinion, a "shrink" may be needed by those who believe god exists. 

Thank you all for your help, support and suggestions. I really appreciate it.




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