The bible is proof that man is inherently good. Christians are disobeying their gods word on a daily basis. Why? Because they know that stoning an adulterer is morally corrupt. The same with all of the other "laws" and "commandments" that their god decrees. Killing homosexuals, Atheists, etc. So the next time that a Christian confronts you about morals, ask them why they are not following their gods laws. If they say it is because of state law, then you look them in the eye and ask them "Would you really kill someone because it says so in the bible?" The fact that society has chosen its own laws based on human morals and not the bible is proof positive that we do use the bible as our moral compass. We, and that includes Christians, actually reject god when it comes to morals.
Thank you Michael I will ask them why they aren't following their own laws and stoning all the adulterers.
Yes I understand that the laws of the bible are immoral - teaching killing others who don't agree with you and so on and so forth.
How Wealth Reduces Compassion
As riches grow, empathy for others seems to decline
By Daisy Grewal
Who is more likely to lie, cheat, and steal—the poor person or the rich one? It’s temping to think that the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to act fairly. After all, if you already have enough for yourself, it’s easier to think about what others may need. But research suggests the opposite is true: as people climb the social ladder, their compassionate feelings towards other people decline.
With respect to morals I've found that I have to gradually let the person know where I stand. Many people including myself were trained in the churches that we grew up in to associate "atheist" with people that believed there was God but wanted to plot against him and his followers.
I've had more success with a gradual coming out.; let the person get to know me and then letting them know that I find more and more to be questionable. Unfortunately that's not always easy to do here in the bible belt where Yahweh get's worked into every conversation.
Thank you Thinking Sapien - and yes that's not always easy to do.
That is good to hear Ethan. I'm glad she likes you for who you are.
True story- when i told one of my uncles (while drunk) that i was an atheist he said to me: "so does that mean your gay?" as an atheist and an lgbt ally i was offended. from his look he seemed to imply that their is something wrong with being gay and that their is something wrong with being an atheist also.
I always ask the question: If religion equals morality then why isn't the middle east like Disneyland and why aren't our prisons overfowing with atheists?
I like that question! Going to "borrow" it.
Oh right P. J. - that's is a great question. Many believers equate being religious with being a good person. And therefore think that no religion = bad evil person.
Well Steph, you can get them to read
Or point them to the website:
Or the humanist sites:
Or simply print off a collection of relevant material into a sort of flyer or newsletter to hand out to those who make such comments.
I'm a cheeky brat and will quite willingly get right into their space and in their face.
But the suggestions I gave would be for a more reserved, less confrontational approach.
Because I enjoy confrontation, whereas you might not.
Here's a good site to print out for them to read or to send to those doubters:
It's very well written.
Best of luck, though things will change, we'll make damn sure it does!
Intelligence is on our side, that's a start!