Whenever I come out Atheist .. they assume I must have no ethics or morals whatsoever and that I am willing to do just about anything --- like lie, cheat and steal.

Anyone else have this happen to them?

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So true Richard. I'm a good person!

"To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." 
~ C.S. Lewis 

Straight from the pen of a believer!  

In spite of Lewis, and other of his ilk, as you state, "We are Good Peoples".

Thanks for the story Write4U! It's funny! They had to throw him out because they couldn't answer him.

Write4U, a perfect example of the price people pay for questioning ... rejection. The good news is, there are 7 billion people on this planet and there are others with whom one can build community.

U.S. & World Population Clocks

U.S.      313,561,799
World 7,013,969,315
16:36 UTC (EST+5) May 17, 2012


Yes, Joan people don't like to be questioned and will punish you for it.

Yes, this is what we are up against. People assume that if you don't have god then you must be a horrible and evil person. I'm from the South too and I've heard the terms "good book" and that "all goodness comes from god". You are taught (when raised religious) that to be good is to "know god".

Davey, I got lost during a trip to the southern tier of the USA to gather genealogy stories and ended up on a "wrong" road. Suddenly a vista appeared, Monument Valley. It was a stunning scene. Having minored in geology in college, I knew the history of that great plain's evolution with monuments thrusting into the sky caused by natural forces. Layer upon layer of sandstone, eroded by water and wind, and different oxides created vibrant colors that seemed to explode as images hit my brain. I realized time played an important part of this great scene. How absolutely splendid. 

"A Splendid Heresy", hopefully, will tell my story. 

Sounds like a beautiful trip Joan. Your book "A Splendid Heresy" sounds interesting.

How is the writing going for it?

Davey, I travelled through Turkey and Greece with archeologist Marija Gimbutas and attorney Riane Eisler, tracking goddess cultures in Old Europe. We heard many stories from local people that had their base in Neolithic beliefs and come to the present day in forms of myths, fairy tales, songs, children's rhymes, etc. that have been changed. For example, One story was of Pandora. According to folk lore, Pandora was the bringer of all things necessary and good, when people needed water, Pandora opened her box and out came water, when they needed grain, out came seeds, when they needed meat, out came rabbits and chickens and all kinds of animals for food. She was the giver of all things good. When patriarchy swept the lands, in the form of Kurgan tribes from north central Eurasia, they brought sky gods, thunder gods, dogma, rules and the notion of dominion. Pandora became an evil one who brought diseases, pain, and suffering. 


"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

~ Thomas Jefferson

That's a great Jefferson quote Joan.


 I have never understood this. I was never indoctrinated, except when my grandmother thought I should experience church and the one time I went to Sunday school... when they showed a picture of some hairy guy in one of in one of her dresses and they said 'Jesus loves you' and I freaked out and was kicked out. I have been openly a non believer all my life and have never had a problem. Though I am sure I have generated much discomfort.


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