Is it moral to vote out of state repeatedly in order to stack a pole to get a secular result?
Interesting discussion -
The pole isn't particularly important in the bigger scheme of things - and it would seem that repeated voting isn't illegal - the site is perhaps designed - like most things in our society - to be an honesty based system.
The organisers would perhaps organise a different way to do it - but perhaps it isn't an issue to vote repeatedly. If it was there would be some way of registration or cookies - which there doesn't seem to be.
It could be set up like big brother or other reality tv voting systems where you can vote as many times as you wish.
Why get all 'holier than thou' about it?
I think we need to use our rational thinking in this case - go through the facts of the case, before condemning others of immoral actions. What's wrong with some reasoning - rather than public shaming?
I'm for the Naturalistic attitude of compassion due to our deterministic universe.
The facts are, that if you have to lie, delete cookies, etc., you are making a decision that is not ethical, irrespective of whether you wish to accept it.
Feel free to back up that assertion.
Name a place where in general, lying is not considered to be unethical.
Oh, well, if you were only talking IN GENERAL and not in this specific case you'd have a point.
And with the cookies again? I've deleted no cookies. I haven't needed to.
Name a place where altering software to subvert a goal isn't considered unethical.
Well, obviously from my point of view, the poll and software in question. Any software that is built where the most likely outcome is the violation of people's rights, I think it is ethical to "game the system." Hacking the website and changing results, not so much. You would be changing other people's votes, and violating their speech. Giving more people the right to speech where the rules aren't set up for it though? I'm fine with that.
You can put any number in there and it leads you to the voting page.... perhaps they are just aiming to get stats on who's voted - from where?
Perhaps they aren't that concerned about the outcome - perhaps they see it as a trivial thing and the purpose is more about getting people involved with the idea of voting so that it encourages more people to take an interest and actually vote on the day?
If they were more serious about it surely they would make it more difficult to 'game' or 'cheat' the vote?
Way to quote mine. What was the VERY NEXT sentence from the one you referenced? Oh yeah, this one:
So the question of morality comes with getting people outside the state to vote.
So you are just lying when you say:
You ignored that you are told that as an Ohio resident...
I just voted three times, and nothing stopped me. Cookies didn't care. So your claim of:
...you may vote daily (hence the cookies which track your daily voting)...
You are now simply being dishonest. I'm disappointed really. This was a moderately good discussion, even with your inability to offer an argument of "it is unethical because it breaks the rules".
I'm not bothering with following this anymore, but feel free to personally message me if you'd like, starting with apologies for dishonest quote mining and lying about what I typed. Anyone else who wants to talk to me can message me too, obviously.