Alright heathens, its time for passions to ignite over whether this Health Care Reform is the best thing in the last 40 years or is going to tear America apart at the seems.  In return for your opinion, I will share some funny.



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wow, finally someone speaks truth.

hats off to you pantagruel

now, get off your ass and put your name in the hat for president, will you?

totally agree
I want something for people who would die without medical insurance. That is a sin. I can't see making them pay if they can't and wouldn't. More and more people may find themselves in that position without jobs. What I can't see is all the people that bring the kids in with sniffles. I would like the wealthy to give some of it up instead of just laying their employees off. I think it is a sin to take jobs to counties where they don't have to worry about pay, working conditions. insurance and polluting their countries. That should be a matter of civil rights. And then the jobs would come back home???? I am naive but that is what it is.
@Binker Bad spelling is a disability?  Seany never said anything about a learning disability.  Besides, I have seen her make well formed sentences before.  She just gets worked up to easy.
Then go ahead Susan and continue to support those who would belittle her. If that is what makes YOU feel superior.
Do you actually bother to read what you are replying to?  Or does it make you feel superior to act holier-then-thou?
Universal Health Care, no matter if it's called ObamaCare, or anything else, simply means that health care has become a "Right" and is due to any citizen. Today, there is no such right however it's within the reach of a democracy to decide to create one. We can decide that everyone gets the health care they need, paid for by taxes or tariffs on those who have money.

However, like all "Rights", there is an associated burden that may not be obvious to all. Most of us agree that it is reasonable to require financial responsibility from those who drive cars. This is because their driving imposes a risk on others of harm. If we do decide we want universal health care, then me allowing my self to get fat, or become out-of-shape, or smoke, or sky-dive, or ski, or go outside in the winter without a hat will impose a risk of financial loss on everyone else. A bad diet leads to obesity; obesity leads to multiple medical problems; and those problem impose a cost on society. Therefor, it becomes reasonable for society to be permitted to tell me what to eat, what to wear, how much exercise I should get, etc. If you agree to let a stranger put their hand in your pocket, it's reasonable for you to want some control over what he'll do in there! If this seems far-fetched to you, consider the justification for laws requiring seat belts, motorcycle helmets, and driver's insurance. They are justified by precisely this principle.

If you vote for health care, you are voting for someone else to tell you how to take care of your health.

"If you vote for health care, you are voting for someone else to tell you how to take care of your health"



I'll vote for single payer universal health care because it's cheaper and works better. 

As an avid motorcyclist I have always maintained that those people who ride without a helmet know they have nothing of value to protect. I still advocated for the right to not wear a helmet, even if I personally always do. The last comprehensive study on motorcycle accidents in the US was done before I was born, so about thirty years ago. 

I know that the best protection is provided by a full face helmet, and that 3/4 and 1/2 helmets are just as good as not wearing one.

If you actually want to help lower motorcycle fatalities understand that passenger vehicles are the leading cause. Its more a campaign of awareness.

More studies have been done on obesity.

Yes helmet laws are local and state implemented.

I find it hard to put seat-belts and helmets in the same category. One stops you from becoming a human bullet, the other protects your head when you become one. Some riders will claim that helmets decrease peripheral vision therefore increasing the chance of having an accident. I haven't read a conclusive study on that, though I haven't noticed it myself.

I would say that the leading cause of any motor vehicle accident is human error in one form or another.

I know absolutely adds nothing to the topic, but I haven't seen much of that in this thread so I figured why not.

I'm Canadian, and I have to tell you guys, I am really digging our healthcare system. It's pretty swell if you don't have a lot of money.
And they cost a lot.
... but they're really neat!


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