This is to continue the discussion of Objectivism from the front page. Some basic info:
Among her writings are The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, both of which have been turned into feature films.
Despite her atheism, Rand is popular among Tea Party conservatives because of her anti-tax stance.
Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan was a personal friend of Rand.
No, but an analysis of societal health does tell you the worth of what is being destroyed. Then, you draw correlations.
I assume you have done this study, and since I haven't, could I selfishly ask for your evaluation? No use letting your expensive study go to waste, right?
Thank you very much for calling me a theist. I am always wrong and stupid.
Everywhere I go on this website, I get called stupid, or theist. If 100 people tell you you are a theist, or stupid, it must be true, right? I'm beginning to believe it!
One more thing. What if I asked to be educated not for my benefit, but for the benefit of those afraid to be called theist and stupid. Thanks for being so kind as to insult me as you help me.
Jason Edwin DeLeo : "You know making bald faced claims without any actual sources is definitely one of the hallmarks of a closed mind."
Then he proceeds to make half a page with some bald faced claims without referring to any sources... my irony-meter just broke, thank you very much.
Insofar as Rand implied that her way was the only "right" way, and that her utopia could only work if everyone thought as she did - that sounds a lot like fascism of sorts to me....
This is where I wander off shaking my head, when talking with the Libertarians in my local atheist groups. Libertarianism (the anarcho-capitalist type that the "true" Libertarians promote) only works in its pure form, according to them. Societies such as what we had in the first century of this country were full of horrifying worker-abuse and child-labor, because they weren't pure capitalist societies. If we had a pure capitalist society, those kinds of abuses would be corrected by the invisible hand of the free-market system.
And then I laugh.
... at great length.
If a philosophy or structure only works in its pure form, then it's pretty much fucked. This is the real world that they're trying to impose their fairytale upon. You can't get that sort of purity, without genocide or something similar. Even then, you don't quite reach it.
> Money isn't a good measure of real value
But neither is anything else. Money at least is objective. If you can fund your ideas, they have verifiable merit of some sort. Otherwise it's all words.
I was not clear enough. In the marketplace of ideas outside verifiable science, money is a poor measure of value, but also the only measure of value. Talk used to be cheap, now it's nearly free (I pay $85/month). Only if you can sell your idea by gathering followers, contributions, or paid publication, can you claim any merit at all. Unless you can actually put your idea into operation and show results.
Of course, by that measure, "The Secret" is better than Atheist Nexus, but who's counting? At least both are on the board.