Our democracy? It is NOT, and we elect the predators who see us as their prey.

Prey? Yes.

Predators? Get elected to a legislative body and get offers of money and more.

The USA has never been a democracy.

If your defense is that it is a representative democracy, then ask who legislators represent.

It is more than an oligarchy; it’s an oligarchy with opportunities for plutocrats and kleptocrats.

It will remain that until the nation and every state, territory and overseas colony has the direct initiative and referendum.

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This is what it devolves into regardless of how it's done. The founders saw this and did their best to put as many anti-corruption safeguards into place. Our government has been working to dismantle those safeguards.

As a matter of fact, many pride themselves on being a capitalist society. If all the lobbyists buy the votes and do the hiring, then you could argue that the people with government power do the most hiring.

America is nothing like what we are taught it is

This is what it devolves into regardless of how it's done. The founders saw this and did their best to put as many anti-corruption safeguards into place. Our government has been working to dismantle those safeguards.

As a matter of fact, many pride themselves on being a capitalist society. If all the lobbyists buy the votes and do the hiring, then you could argue that the people with government power do the most hiring.

America is nothing like what we are taught it is

  Craigart14,

I'll just focus on one sentence because your entire statement has many points you are expressing.  It just my way of keeping it simple and remaining focused on a singular point.

"If we put real power in the hands of the people, aren't we getting close to mob rule?"

"If we put real power in the hands of the people" What kind of real power are you talking about? Is it the power to enforce a law? or power to enact the law? ,or power to immediately remove a politician from an office at anytime he/she steps out of bounds?

"aren't we getting close to mob rule?" What is the difference between "mob rule" and government by the people? Where there times when mob rule was necessary and effective? Weren't the American colonists a mob rule? Isn't that what the British thought of us as? The suffragettes were called a mob rule, but it turned out it was what was needed.

Mob rule: Noun, the fact or state of large groups of people acting without the consent of the government, authorities, etc

Perhaps mob rule may be a another term for democracy. 

I think the only way citizens will ever control government is through transparency, in other words two way communication whereby the more power and money an individual or corporation has the less right they have to public secrecy.

Try voting, Ruth. Votes ALWAYS beat transparency.

Transparency is a precondition to an informed vote.

Frederick Douglass: power concedes nothing without a struggle.

Informed voting is a precondition to transparency. Better-informed voting follows.

Term limits is a viable option in my opinion. No office should be for life. SCOTUS should never be a lifetime appointment. We should vote for offices to have term limits OR to come and go as our presidents come and go. If one POTUS likes a certain person in an office they may keep him if they will. Otherwise, new people will be chosen for the job.

Michael, suppose you run for an elective office. Suppose also that you win election to it.

if in that office you can do something for people, they might offer you something.

Will you accept their offer and do as they want?

Tom, this is but another reason that we need term limits.

Michael, California’s term-limited legislature with a Democratic majority started passing bills that favored their major donors by introducing, debating, and passing them in early evening sessions that lasted about two hours. WHEN NO NEWS MEDIA PEOPLE WERE PRESENT.

The voters stopped that abuse with another direct initiative that requires a pending bill to be published on the Internet for three days before the legislature’s final vote to pass or fail the bill.

Politicians are predators.

The story of why California’s voters, thirty years ago with a direct initiative, put term limits on the legislature requires an explanation longer than that.

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