Here are some truths for Roman Catholic fundies, Archbishops and Muslims to assimilate.
Pope Francis accepts that the theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and declares that God is not “a magician with a magic wand”. Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, he made comments which experts said put an end to the fictions of creationism and intelligent design that his predecessor, Benedict XVI, had encouraged.
Francis explained that the two scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator--– arguing instead that they “require it”. He said: “When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so”. Indeed, God “created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment. The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real . . . ”
Does this mean that Pope Francis is a Deist?
This kind of seems to me, at first glance, to be the Pope's apologetic to reaffirm some believers' faith in the Roman Catholic God in the face of science telling them that God as they've previously been taught to believe by relgious authority (i.e. the Pope) doesn't exist. Some people have a certain mentality that dictates that if God turns out to not be exactly the way they were taught God was, then the authority lied. As science is discovering more and more about the way the world and the universe REALLY works (which is extremely different from the way the Bible says it does), the Pope is trying to maintain control and power over the religious masses by making it look like he and the rest of religious authorities are not really lying, and doing that by giving room in the fables for science to squeeze through so that the religious will still be convinced when science continues to further prove the contrary to their belief. I believe it's just a ploy, using the cause of the exposure of their shortcomings as a cover for their shortcomings.
Francis explained that the two scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator--– arguing instead that they “require it”.
Probably the whole "first cause" crap, which fails to take into account the mechanism of spontaneous emission. While I'm no expert, SE or a phenomenon similar to it could very easily have kicked off the Big Bang with no exterior help.
The problem of course is that puts Yahweh in the unemployment line (where he belongs!).
Funny how he conveniently neglects to go further into detail on this matter, say for instance, to explain why. It's definitely some sort of ploy to use means he does not understand to justify his fables and the rest of Christianity's (in all their denominations) fables.
'God of the Gaps', it isn't that the theories require their god, but gods requires the gaps in the theories.
Seems to me that Francis is trying to be 'all things to all people'. It won't work, of course.
Terry - I think you make a salient point. While the Pope seemingly puts an end to the creationist-intelligent design nonsense he still posits that you need a creator. I believe your assertion about why Francis is doing this is a correct one.
T Andrew Klatt - But the other higher members of the Vatican only ever elect Catholics to take on the role of Pope, so if he's a Deist, how could he have pulled that off? I mean, sure, he could have pretended to be Catholic the entire time, but....I don't know, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me.
I think that what the pope says is not a complete and sincere acceptance of scientific truth. This may give a new twist to creationism. Creationists will now build new arguments why god is required for evolution. They will now seek newer ways of misrepresenting science.What the pope says therefore doesn't mean much.
Guess it must be true if the Pope said it. lol Does he think we are all waiting on the edge of our seats for his next 'revelation?' Sigh.
I'm still waiting for him to pull a "Shoes of the Fisherman" number ... though I'll admit, I'm liable to be waiting a while for THAT!