So i meant this title as a satrical allagory to a real problom I have with religeon. (and hoping this is a proper forum post and not best a blog).
My Mother has Lupus (a disease that causes her own immune system to attack itself) and I have in my adulthood, come to terms with this as just a fact of life and a fact that could be much worse considering the circumstances. I however, HATE when I here anyone say "well god has his hand there" and my favourite "he will never give you more than you can handle".
Isn't that an interesting statement? "he'll never give us more than we can handle"...well that's presuming alot so i suppose 'god' could do that...but isn't that still kind of a dick move? I mean what? He'll give us just enough to make us reach the breaking point? In order to make us rely on him? That would be like I don't know, torture?
My contention lies with folks that beleive so strongly that in the face of obvious contradictions with there own god concept would even find comfort in "praise god my house still stands". Oh and i'm an ex christian school kid (12 years, family is evangelical) so I know the job thing, how is that not effed up? I mean god had a bet with satan?! lol?
What really gets me pissed off is that they find some divine purpose for exscusing theire own god's behaviour. I'm often asked what I would do if I was ever to meet god (usually the judeo-christian one) and I answer "spit in his eye".
Harsh, but I feel any suffering is Inexcusable. Period. Dot.
The idiocy of this outlook by theists is often found in their statements in reaction to disasters - natural or otherwise. Tornadoes, hurricanes, airline crashes, etc. In the wake of massive destruction, with tens or hundreds dead, some moron will praise god for saving a puppy, or kitten, or family photo album.
Bill Maher summed it up best when he he commented on the Dutch airline crash in May of 2010, in Libya, where every passenger died except one young boy. It wasn't a miracle that only 1 out of 104 persons lived. It was god blowing a no-hitter in the bottom of the 9th.
Meet him? Probably hand him an arrest warrant for mass murder.
Firstly, thank you for being one person who understands what the blog section is supposed to be for, and what doesn't belong there; seriously …you obviously "get it".
"I'm often asked what I would do if I was ever to meet god (usually the judeo-christian one) and I answer "spit in his eye"."
We atheist wouldn't have to do anything his Christian followers would kill him first. How dare he return and stop the biggest money making fraud perpetrated on humankind.
My favourite ancient Greek Philosopher: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
If I were a lawyer my case and point would be yahweh's chosen people, the nomadic tribes of the Bronze Age north eastern african continent...kinda effed them over...so I'm sure there is an explenation...
I'm just ranting and thank you for the responses...
God will never give us more than we can handle.
What an utter load of horse hockey. How many men and women has this ersatz deity driven to suicide with loads they were supposedly able to bear, except that they weren't? And for those who may have survived, how many have been broken by circumstances, by war, by PTSD, to the point where the person before the event hardly resembles the person after?
Probably a good thing that there is no such thing. His fan club would likely be badly outnumbered by those who would want to lynch him!
My (Christian) wife is asking me to read a book titled "Disappointment with God', which apparently tries to explain in several thousand words or so, why it is that the man upstairs doesn't seem to answer our prayers.I will probably read it (or get as far as i can before I can't stand anymore) just to see the lengths to which true believers will twist and turn things in order to hang on to their beliefs (hey people, hint: he doesn't answer prayers because he isn't really there).I can tell it will be be a tough read, as I read in the first chapter, the author, Phillip Yancy, describes a homosexual friend who, after failing to be "cured" of his homosexuality despite his prayers, gives up on his religion and returns to his life of "promiscuity", because, apparently to this author, all gays are bad people and promiscuous. And so God has 101 reasons for not answering prayers, or more likely, he answers in ways we do not at first recognize.Let's see how many of you can guess the ways god doesn't answer prayers and I will let you know who got it right after I finish the book.
The title of this video may be a bit misleading, but it makes a great point of the problem of christian (or any religion's) prayer:
Give that a look and let us know what you think.
My mother died of cancer of the pancreas and my step father always thought "that God was going to heal her." They had me trained for the ministry in earlier life, but I heard dad say this and was wondering "who did God last heal of cancer of anything." At my work I called mom's situation a "death sentence" and others said I didn't know anything coz "they are healing more and more cancer every day." As far as I know right now, both my mother and Patrick Swayze (along with others) are as dead as door nails!
BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF I PRAYED, they say. If that prayer wasn't answered, it just means you didn't pray right. Maybe you need to hold your head right, use the right words, or roll around in the floor jabbering in tongues. Sorry. They would all still be dead.
THIS JEALOUS GOD that didn't like his creation killed all but a few of us once, and then his all knowing self set up some unintelligible system where he would come to earth as his own son and be among us, then we would kill him, but if we believed on him (and in him), we would have everlasting life. Looks to me like we lose and HE wins. This strange setup wants to give HIM everlasting life and the gullible do or say anything to keep on believing it all!
I also certainly agree with you on God and Satan "having a bet." The gullible cannot see that this is what the book of Job is all about. It's a stupid allegory. In the end Job gets back everything including his wife and kids. Were they the same wife and kids from before, or does it matter? If they were his same wife and kids then Jesus is NOT " the first fruits of the dead."
How stupid can religious people be??