Well... life in the country... where I'm from... in a old fashioned sea-side semi agricultural town of 2800 folks... litters of dogs, cats, pigs, rabbits... any animal which one could not afford to feed was euthanised. Neutering is choice no.1, euthanasia is no.2 Euthanasia of a newborn animal I have absolutely no issues with. And in H.sapiens... PPD often achieves the same result.
I had a neighbor that was feeding stray cats on my property line and I asked her to stop and she refused. I would dig up at least 20lbs of cat $h&t every day out of my vegetable garden.
One night my mother stopped by for a visit and could not come into my house because I had 79 feral cats on my porch. My mother had to call the fire department and they and the police had to step in and help animal control remove those filthy animals.
The next day I purchased several cat traps and for six months straight bot me and my mother hauled away a unknown amount of cats and kittens. Some we took to the fish market and some we took to a office park.
I was not the only one that complained about Bonnie and those cats. My neighbors across the alley was complaining about those cats tearing up their flower and vegetable garden and the window screens.
Why finally put a stop to Bonnie's act of feral kindness was the 24th Superbowl. I was having a Superbowl party and all of a sudden everyone saw a flash and heard an explosion. Cat body parts was flying all over the alley and backyard. It was my neighbor from across the alley who had the last straw with the feral cats, she blew them up and told Bonnie she would be next if she saw one more cat on her property.
After that no more feral cats and Bonnie moved.
It was that serious.
I lived in Miami and Fort Lauderdale for several years. There is one absolute benefit to stray cats in a big city... no rats. Those two cities would be completely overrun with rats were it not for the feral cat population. They are a sad lot... but they are useful, just like farm cats keeping mice and rats out of the feed stocks. It's only in recent times that our pets serve only esthetic purposes, for most of our history, our pets had utilitarian purposes.
Dempsey's never heard Skyhooks, 'Ego Is Not a Dirty Word" hit, if it wasn't for narcissism, humanity wouldn't be here. Maybe he should listen to the song closely, it is philosophically brilliant! Aye M8z!
Yes I'm completely aware of my many issues, not only have I studied psychology, one of my friends is a practicing clinical psychologist.
Though my concern for your health is genuine, because your reactions remind me of my very best mate who I am looking at losing soon through dementia, he too was a boxer for many years and stopped fighting around 30 years ago, though he is Chinese and a martial arts expert. They think the damage to his frontal lobes from all that time ago may be contributing to his condition. I too may have similar damage since one of our favourite contests was breaking boards with our heads. Though my biggest health risk is asbestos, since I've been exposed to it most of my life. I'd rather go from dementia than Mesothelioma.
I've run out of time for posting, too much work, all the best M8!
I think this forum has gone way out of control. It has degenerated into a cat lovers versus dog lovers argument, with statements the like of " the only good cat is a dead cat!". I thought atheist/humanist was suppose to be better people than those religious nuts. In the Philippines, we once confronted Catholic nuns who had cats and kittens thrown into the river, and priests who refuse pets from being brought inside churches for blessing during the feast of St. Francis, because they are "dirty".
There are those who prefer cats and others prefer dogs, but all of us should learn to love all animals and care for their welfare. I myself have cats and dogs. Hate is a very dispicable thing and should not have any role in our community of nontheists.
Get over yourself Oscar. Not every living being has come into this world past, present and future to be liked and loved like you want it. I hate cats, so get over it. I hate eggplant, are you going to turn me into some vegetable rights group? I don't know where you developed the mentality that everyone should love everything living and dead, please drop the idealism.
You demanding post is coming across like some xtian that must dictate on how everyone is to act according to your rules and regulations. Well, life does not work that way sweetie. Domestic cats carry diseases and it is documented that these animals have created birth defects. Love a cat if you want to, but remember this, as long as you are not paying my bills and if you were, don't you ever dictate to me on how to think and feel. You have no right to bring your hidden catholicism into this forum and dictate on who should be where.
Your opinion is like a a$$hole, every one has one including you. If you don't like what I say, live with it. I've been on this planet a lot longer than you and I don't have to justify living on your terms. If you think that everyone should waste their resources on insects and animals that kill without discrimination, you are deluding yourself that you live in a utopian society. I am not wasting my precious resource on a wandering bedbug motel.
I have great respect for big cats and I have said that in the past, as for domestic cats, they have no value.
For someone to be a nontheist, you are really preaching that God mentality. DID YOU KNOW THAT CATS ARE KNOWN TO BE GOD'S RIGHT HAND MUFF?
Looks like I hit a nerve. All I am saying is that some people prefer cats and other dogs. There is no reason to turn this into a motivation for hatred toward a species of animal. I have cats all my life, and I have never contracted any sickness from them. My two kids grew up with cats and dogs, and neither of them have birth defects. Some people just had to spit out hatred and violence for something they do not like. It is shocking to see that there are also obnoxious, foul-mouthed persons in this supposedly civilized discussion.
I hit lots of nerves Oscar, though I don't see my pugilist buddy Biff anywhere here, even his bullying posts have disappeared. Hmmm, maybe there is a moderator on this Blog. Funny how a chat on cats and dogs can raise reactions similar to the Islamic tirade over "Innocense Of Muslims". ROFL!
No, you did not hit a nerve. I am sick and tired of people like you that claim to be a non-theist but yet preach xtianity in a back door way. I also hate it when people like you decide who should be part of this site and who shouldn't because someone does not like a species of animal.
GET OVER IT.
Foul mouth, puleeze, oh slow one. The very bible you preach from, the very bible you try to live your life on is full of so-called profanity (i.e. bastard, piss, damn, etc.) and you have the nerve to discuss a supposedly civilized discussion? Oscar, drop the bull crap and hypocrisy, you probably curse more than anyone on this site. So let me give you a couple piece of advice.
So, it is time for you to go and start reading some history books and do tell us the truth about what nation is civilized or not, that is if you can get past your own.
This lighthearted discussion got a little too serious of late. Here is something to get it back on track.
I thought the keeping stats part was extra funny.
Ha Ha Russell, just what many friends need for their dogs that never want to stop fetching balls.
It'd be useless for my dogs that never bring the balls back, I have to fetch them to retrieve the ball.