i've been watching the original series all weekend on PBS.  tonight the epic return featuring Neil DeGrasse Tyson, on Fox and NatGeo!  yes, SCIENCE bitches!!  set your DVR's!!

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Joan, you're welcome. Based on your comment, I went back and listened to Tyson's Islam's Golden Age. When he finished, I was really struck by the point he was making about naming rights and the intellectual collapse of whole civilizations when they turn from investigation to revelation. The last thing he said, though, really got me.

"I don't want to know why 85% of the members of the National Academy of Science reject god. I want to know why 15% accept him."

That is a puzzler.  "why 15% accept him."

Very likely because they've compartmentalized their belief, and while they're prepared to use the scientific method and discipline everywhere else, they haven't thought to use it THERE.

Thanks Pat.  I'll watch them if my ISP ever stops dropping connection every 15 minutes and keeps the speed up while connected :(

Yeah, no room for argument ... just a whole lot of creationist blathering!  Someone took away their dolly, I think.

Just watching second episode on NatGeo.  I love Neil Degrasse Tyson.  I was so looking forward to the new series, but have to say I was  disappointed in the premiere show.  The "cosmic calendar" was exactly the same from Carl Sagan's episode.  Didn't like the extended cartoon about a minor character.  I  thought the rest was too basic, we've already learned so much more in the last 30 years.  I will watch the new Cosmos but there are much better NGT videos on youtube, I have watched so many, but his presentation on "Intelligent Design" is one of the best.  As he said, why would a god have designed a human entertainment center right next to a sewer system.  He started going to the Hayden Planetarium at 9 and met Carl Sagan at 17 and the path was set.  He makes science so understandable and enjoyable.

Let's keep something in mind here. Neil's audience is NOT us. It's people with at best a eighth grade education and very likely at least a mild bias against an educated opinion. Before you diss this effort, consider the entire situation.

That's why they call it personal opinion, being disappointed is my expression of my personal opinion.

The one thing we need to be clear about is that this is NOT about us.  This is not about people who already know what's going on.  If we can deal with that, we have a chance to beat the people who are trying to compromise the truth.

I'm an electrical engineer and troubleshooter with 30 years experience and a level of sophistication way past what Neil was laying down ... and I enjoyed the daylights out of what he put out there, not because I learned anything new, but because of the promise of what he was putting out there for others.  THAT is how we need to think about this.

so what, everybody gets to think how they want

If you don't want to discuss your personal opinion then don't mention it on a discussion board.  I t boggles my mind how people seem to think having an opinion somehow exempts them from discussion. on a discussion board. 

Yes, you are allowed to thin the way you do but, just consider that you are ignoring facts to do it.





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