As weird as it is, I think it was the attitude of my former "fellow" Christians that started me on the road to doubt. Even though I've got a bachelors in Physics and have generally held a belief in evolution and big bang cosmology for most of the believing stage of my life, it really wasn't science that brought up questions(cognitive dissonance at its best). I think I've always generally never had a connection with anyone in any church I had ever attended. Mainly since most Christians, especially in the south, are non-intellectuals. But I think it really started when I began listening to extreme metal. I couldn't understand how anyone could look down on something that I loved so much and felt so natural to listen to. I can't tell you how many people have told me that its "the devils music"(even though most of the lyrics are socio-political).

Of course later on I did my research and discovered how ridiculous my former beliefs were. So who or what started you on your path to disbelief?

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The usual response I get to that is "sin caused nature to fall". According to that idea then, wouldn't there be a correlation between how bad someone is and how sick or deformed someone is? And wouldn't there be no illness in children until they have had a chance to do a little sin here and there? It seems rather unfair that this sin-sickness would affect people indiscriminantly......
Yeah, those thoughts went through my mind too. Besides, as far as I know, it was only humans who actually did the so-called "sinning," so how did the rest of creation get wrapped up in it too?? Just makes no sense.
But then you get into the truly evil Biblical doctrine of generational curses. A friend of mine had two daughters born with brain cancer; one is in remission and the other has died. Sadly, my friend blames herself, and says that god is punishing her for getting pregnant at 15 with her oldest, and that that's why he killed her baby girl and let both her daughters suffer so much physical pain. It's heartbreaking.
I grew up as a catholic and was forced to take confession at 8 years of age. I remember thinking 'why do I have to do this?' and trying so hard to think of things I thought I did wrong. I think I ended up confessing something along the lines of 'I was mean to my mum because I didn't put my things away when she told me...'

But to clarify the point I'm making, I don't think religion cares how old someone is in order to label them sinful. The act of baptism is a cleansing of baby before introducing them into the family of Christ. Now that's pretty messed up cos I don't see what a newborn baby needs to be particularly cleansed of.
It's funny how people pick and choose when 'God has a plan' - sometimes all they can say is 'God is with you'. I find that's said in the exceptionally bad cases where even the religious cannot see that their all powerful saviour would be following a game plan.
I remember someone saying "God don't make mistakes" when we were talking about transgendered people.

Oh really? Then why are people born intersexual?
I've never believed. I just could not understand how people could believe.
My friends who claimed to believe and went to church every week were no "nicer" than me and in fact were racist based on crap they had heard from their parents. I figured that the stuff they were hearing about god was crap too and I just wasn't buying it.
I saw a show about the big bang theory on the science channel or something when I was in preschool. The next day one of the nuns asked me how the earth was made, and I guess I gave the wrong answer.... That's about when I started thinking they might be wrong.
Haha, I love that you were watching science shows in preschool :)
I dont think I ever believed in jesus or the bible but my disbelief in god came after I read some material in high school that concerned language development and accounts of 'wild children' - including that of 'genie'
I dont know why this did it for me but after studying what happens to children when they are kept isolated from other humans, I realised I no longer believed in god.
I'm not sure what made me start to doubt. Even as religious as Utah is, I have a very special pocket of Atheist influence, and I'm sure that has helped. I just remember that it started as early as about 7th grade, and inconsistencies kept forming in my head...

Where I live, people surprisingly aren't insane about music. But an online buddy of mine got asked if he has ever been possessed by the devil because he was listening to Metallica.
The best way to get someone out of a cult is to get them physically OUT of the cult. Indoctrination works best when it's all encompassing.




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