Why there is tax benefit for religious organizations ? I mean many religious people get over the government and the financial system by taking benefit of this system. I'm sure there are some opportunistic people who are in the skins of theists but are benefiting from the tax benefit of the most countries on this planet offer.

Why non-believers get their pokcets screwed with addition in taxes while religious people get tax benefits or tax-deduction ?

What can we do about this ?

Not sure where this fits, but i thought this topic comes under ethics so posted.

Views: 51

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

I have no idea. But we let them get away with too much to begin with. Since when have churches actually stayed out of politics?
The main reason is because we live in a country that's majority Christian. Technically, though, there really isn't a practical difference because nontheistic groups can just sign up as non-profit community organizations, which confers the same tax benefits. Since there's no practical difference, it doesn't get challenged in court, and probably wouldn't go anywhere if it did.

Still, it is pretty annoying as a symbolic issue.
I've been wondering if the majority really is Christian, or if it only appears that way. Most people I know have nothing to do with any religion. Those who claim Christianity are usually on the fence about it. I don't try converting, but a few conversations have resulted in new atheists. Even my mother finally crossed over after a decade of debates (I never feared expressing my opinion about certain things). Some are Christian today and atheist tomorrow. Many are agnostic. Tons of people are into Wicca. Islam is popular in some areas. Honestly, I think the Christian population is on a serious decline.
Where do you live? Lol, everybody's a Christian of one sort or another here.
They get tax exemption because that's sort of how it's always been. The eccumenicalism of today is a recent change in inter-Christian relations. Remember, when Kennedy was running for president people were having a shit fit that he would show too much deference to the Vatican because he was a Catholic. Now about half of the Senate and a good amount of the House identify as Catholic.

We didn't tax any church because it may have shown too much deference to one church or another causing all the others to have a fucking shit fit. So we decided to not tax any of them with the proviso that none of them would interfere with politics.

A few decades later we have churches tempting the state and openly violating the agreement with the intent to have their cake and eat it too: not respecting their political neutrality while keeping their tax exemption.

This isn't anything new. In the 2004 election the Catholic Church skirted around their end of the bargain by refusing to give John Kerry and any other politician who supported abortion the sacrament of the Eucharist. Other churches haven't been as subtle.

One side effect of this tax exemption is that virtually anything that calls itself a church can file for tax exemption. The C street house in Washington, DC that housed all those pious adulterers is tax exempt. Billy Graham, the remnants of Jerry Falwell and other TVangelicals are tax exempt because what they run is a church. All their millions and in some cases their fleet of planes are tax exempt as they're all part of "church function." Kent Hovind called his Creationist museum a church and was allowed to run it tax free -- until the IRS caught up with him and put him in prison.

Seriously, L. Ron Hubbard had it right, if you want to get rich, start a religion.
This isn't anything new. In the 2004 election the Catholic Church skirted around their end of the bargain by refusing to give John Kerry and any other politician who supported abortion the sacrament of the Eucharist. Other churches haven't been as subtle.

The LDS Church is even worse. Part of the Prop. 8 scandal was their use of front groups, almost entirely funded through official church funds, that lobbied in favor of Prop. 8.

Telling churches that they can't be politically active is almost meaningless; all they have to do is funnel money through some other organization, and it's technically legal.
Few reasons, one because they are the majority, majority rules. Two, religious freedom, nobody better dare tax MY church type attitude & taxation hinders their freedom. Third, supposedly the idea is that the church saves the govt. from spending money on things such as social programs, even accounting for the loss of tax revenues from churches. This one of the reasons faith based initiatives piss me off.

Seriously, my husband has talked about starting a church because of how easy it is for clergy to live high on the hog. It is so easy to manipulate the system in the name of god.
they should all be properly taxed on any profit they make. If they do donate to charity, the taxes would take care of themselves anyway. This would prevent gain from sleazy organizations like Scientology, who give to absolutely no charities and charge their people up the ass for services. Of course we all know how they got their tax exempt status. But get rid of it and let them earn their right to shelter some or all of their taxes like the rest of us have to do.
Strangely enough, churches "enjoy" 501c3 (tax exempt) status because in 1954, then-Senator LBJ sponsored and pushed through the bill that garnered churches that status. Johnson did this to prevent the churches from legislating from the pulpit and dogmatically shaping public policy. Of course, churches decry this situation, saying that preaching against anything the government has deemed legal could endanger their status, but honestly, when has that EVER stopped a Bible-pounder from screeching self-righteously, and further, when has any church had their 501c3 status revoked? Answer: never.

Of course, many churches, and their sheeply adherents, insist they need not file for 501c3 because the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment means that they are not under the jurisdiction of the government. This convoluted train of thought thankfully has been derailed by every court that has seen a case espousing said foolishness as a contention. Still, if churches and their flocks insist on such "separation of church and state," why is god still on my country's money and in the Pledge?

Rather, tax exemption is tantamount to subsidies to religion, and clearly in violation of the First Amendment, despite what Christine O'Donnell might say. James Garfield put it best in one of my favorite quotes on the matter: "The divorce between Church and State ought to be absolute. It ought to be so absolute that no Church property anywhere, in any state or in the nation, should be exempt for equal taxation; for if you exempt the property of any church organization to that extent you impose a tax upon the whole community."


© 2019   Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: The Nexus Group.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service