I would like to do a piece on my blog, Releasing Religion, regarding mixing God & government.  And I'd like to know what opinions people have here about doing such a thing.  Some points to mention are:

Glenn Beck is well known for arguing that we have misunderstood that founding fathers & their desire to keep church & state separate.  Holding his rally on 8/28, he gathered 150.000 people to hear him talk about bringing out country "back to God".  What do you think it would do to our country to "get back to God"? 

The Tea Party has been called racist Chrisotcrats. In their recent convention, most conference sessions began with prayers.  What do you think of the Tea Party?  Do you know very little about them?  Do you know a lot?  Please share your thoughts here.

The piece will be posted on www.releasingreligion.blogspot.com

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yeah it's Koch ( but Cock er..Kock fits them better) :>)
I forgot to add that I agree with the views expressed on this thread that the Tea Party does not seem to have any good answers to the problems they are addressing so I'm not saying I think they are really accomplishing anything worthwhile - I'm just saying I think their motives are good motives and they have hope. More than I do.
I agree that they have hope - more hope than I have as well. The problem is that what they hope for is unrealistic and irresponsible. Their dream-world won't work, even for them. They are being exploited by a selfish minority to the detriment of most Americans.
Park - I nearly hit the ceiling when I found out they wanted to build a Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero. It should at least be at least 10 blocks away. But hey, they have the right to do it so that's just how I feel though.

I do not believe that at least one quarter of the tea party believe that Obama is a Kenyan. Besides, progressive liberals believe a whole lot of crap that is 1000 times more outrageous than than.
Phil - I agree with you.

They are being exploited by a selfish minority to the detriment of most Americans.

By that do you mean there are a minority of racist tpers that make the party look bad?

I can agree with that too.
No problem, Park, that's the minority I was talking about, of course. The racists are part of the misled mob.
Jason - All I can say is it is hard to know who is telling the truth. I listen to Fox and CNN. I hear rediculous things on both networks. I also hear good things on both. That's why I watch both. I want to hear it all.

Your economic philosophy is in direct oppostion of what I hear Neal Boortz talk about (he is a Libertarian) and other people I see on television. I like to watch shows like "This Week" and panel discussions on CNN and such. I try to listen to all sides.

All I hear is people saying opposite things - using poll stats that say opposite things and it is damn confusing so all I can do is judge from my personal experience.

I am almost 50 years old so I do have some experience under my belt. I lost a very good job I held for eight years with a large company due to polictical correctness gone very wrong. I could have fought it but I was not up to the challenge at the time. That's a big influence on my thinking. Believe you me. That is an example of how I can only resort to my personal experience in trying to figure out who to believe.

If you can tell me some other good way to figure out who is right and who is wrong, please clue me in and I'm very serious.
~as an aside, i've always found truth in humor.. and i've found much more humor in the liberal side of things than in the conservative... which lends itself to the daily show. I know they refuse to taught themselves as news (i don't think they are) and scoff when people say they are, but the humor from the show comes from facts and satire~ if it wasn't true, it really wouldn't be funny

Yeah, I have had some good laughs from that show. I like the Colbert Report too. But I think they lean too much to the left and I love to see them make more fun of the lefties! I would laugh even harder I bet LOL.
Linda, I agree with Park about getting info from a variety of sources. I have completely written off Beck and Limbaugh, however, because those guys are uneducated, uninformed, cruel, pathological liars. I don't understand why anybody pays any attention to them.

And Fox News is no more than free advertising for the Republican/Tea/Libertarian Party (they're all the same party, as far as I can tell). Fox News has even donated a million or two to GOP candidates. Fox News is pure propaganda. CNN is basically just incompetent and frivolous. Any liberal bias on the part of their reporters is more than made up for by the conservative bias of the corporate bosses they work for.

The mainstream media generally is more interested in sensationalism than anything else; that's what gets them the money. When it comes to politics, they have this nonsensical devotion to the appearance of impartiality. What this means in practice is that they stick a microphone in front of a Democrat and in front of a Republican and call it a day, never mind whether either one or both is factually wrong. If the MSM are guilty of anything, it's that they elevate "balance" above an accurate depiction of reality.

I like Jon Stewart as well. But then, he's not hamstrung by being part of a news organization. He can actually say what he really thinks, instead of pretending to be impartial.
Linda, what's magical about the 10-block radius? Blocks in Manhattan are long and skinny. Do you mean ten blocks the long way or ten blocks the skinny way? I personally think that no houses of worship should be built anywhere, but as long as our Constitution allows any of them, it pretty much has to allow all of them. Anything else is just preferring one kind of crazy over another kind of crazy. What's the point?

As to the Birthers, the polls I've seen suggest that more than a quarter of Teabaggers believe Obama isn't a US citizen, but polling isn't an exact science. And what crap that liberals believe is 1,000 times more outrageous than that? Examples?
It still isn't a Mosque. Plus there is an actual Mosque 7 blocks away.
BTW if you google 'Tea party obama kenya' you will get many many pages to articles titled something about sending obama back to kenya.

Does nothing to change my opinion at all. Pages and pages on the internet is far from proving your information to be correct about the over 1/4 stats. I mean sure okay, maybe your info is correct - I'm not all knowing and that's for damn sure. But what's so horrible about believing Obama is a Kenyan? All he has to do is produce a birth certificate and that will shut them up real fast. Why did you even bring that up? It's no big deal to me. Hell, all I have to do is apply for a job at a grocery store and it's like I got a telescope up my asshole. I don't like it but it's just the way the world is getting anymore.

Okay, if you want an example - what about the lady in Michigan who posted a notice on her church bulliten board that she wanted a Christian roommate and someone reported her to the Michigan Department of Civil Rights and she may be fined 100's of dollars and have to attend a fair housing course. What utter crap. This was talked about on the View yesterday or the day before and I heard about it even before that show was aired.

Susan - It does not matter that there is an exisiting Mosque 7 blocks away. That's completely beside the point.



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