I would like to do a piece on my blog, Releasing Religion, regarding mixing God & government.  And I'd like to know what opinions people have here about doing such a thing.  Some points to mention are:

Glenn Beck is well known for arguing that we have misunderstood that founding fathers & their desire to keep church & state separate.  Holding his rally on 8/28, he gathered 150.000 people to hear him talk about bringing out country "back to God".  What do you think it would do to our country to "get back to God"? 

The Tea Party has been called racist Chrisotcrats. In their recent convention, most conference sessions began with prayers.  What do you think of the Tea Party?  Do you know very little about them?  Do you know a lot?  Please share your thoughts here.

The piece will be posted on www.releasingreligion.blogspot.com

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we laugh, but is there a modicum of truth to this statement? Is it not true that the KKK was also a god-fearing right-wing political fringe group?
Not all tp'ers are racist.
I didn't say that ALL tp'ers were racist.

I did ask of the KKK was a God Fearing right-wing fringe group - with similiar characteristics as the TP. Are they?
How are they similar? Besides being a right wing fringe group. I don't see the similarity.
I'd only say that if we think that political parties are evolutionary, which I believe they are, that the KKK is a great grandfather of the TP. Sure it isn't as extreme, but the DNA has the same make-up: Anti Govt, overtly religious, simplistic and generally racist
The thing about emotions is that they are usually fleeting. It's hard to keep that level of intensity up for a 2 hour football game, how will they keep it up for over 2 years? Especially when they see members of their own "team" sitting on the bench while everyone else gets the glory.

I'm sure they'll get all riled up again in 2012, but I think they have hit their peak. Like any team, it's hard to win two big games in a row, especially when you don't have talent or a coherent strategy. Palin will embarrass herself time and time again once she is off Fox News and her true colors will shame many TP'rs. I'm not a particulaly "self-assured" type, so I reserve the right to be wrong.

Re the long term look, there have always been right wing fringe groups and they always fail over time. The progressive position always, always, wins. It might be slower than we would like, and it might seem like 1 step back for every two steps forward, but ultimately we always move forward, not backwards.
It sure seems to me that the 2010 midterms were decided by the people who stayed home, not the Teabaggers who voted. The Dems wussed out like they usually do, so the fired-up progressives who elected Obama sat it out in 2010. And now Obama is actually taking the blame, saying he didn't compromise enough with the GOP on health insurance reform. Incredible, since the Dems pre-emptively caved in on almost every issue, and considering the GOP is incapable of compromise, doesn't want it, and disowns any member who attempts it.

When the GOP is in the minority, they pretty much get everything they want. When they're in the majority, they pretty much get everything they want. The Dems are so afraid of looking like liberals, they can't do anything without a supermajority in every branch.

Fortunately, the GOP will be incapable of governing over the next two years, thanks in large part to the insanity of the Teabaggers. If the Dems have any brains and spine, they'll do everything they can to make the Republican House look like THE problem. We could be in for a decade or two of being whipsawed between the two parties until the increasingly Democratic demographics begin to be felt more intensely or until we get a progressive in the White House who actually sticks to his guns.

Either way, the Tea Party will flame out over the next two years, particularly when Palin makes her next disastrously inept run for the White House.
Anybody remember the "reform" party?
The only differences I can see is that Perot wasn't as charismatic as Palin or as colorful as the other characters, and his main point turned out to be correct. He was seen by the media as "nuts" as well.
This time, as the tea party wasn't "private property" so to speak, the GOP was able to co-opt it from the beginning. I seem to remember the GOP blaming Perot for the loss of Bush I, and now that I think about it more, there are a lot of parallels that I'm a bit surprised nobody in the media has said much about.
It's now known as "United We Stand".
"Dear Tea Party, you will now get YOURS"
wow, good one Maia.

Love this paragraph:

"But if you are a lower to middle-class Republican, Tea Partier or flip-flopping indie voter, you are now in the most delightfully ironic position of all -- you think you just voted yourself more voice, when in fact you voted for far less. You think yourself a lion; you're actually the meat. You actually just voted yourself an even lower position on the food chain. Congratulations."
I know! I loved that part, too! It's going to be SO interesting to follow this group of people and see where they go, what happens to their policies, and whether or not they simply fade away. Thought this article expressed my feelings pretty well.
I still feel this will wind up being a "tempest in a teapot" so to speak.
It's outlived it's usefulness. What began as a serious question about the role of gov't in the financial markets was quickly suborned in to a propaganda tool by the GOP, a.k.a- Karl Rove & co.
The tea baggers that don't get the message will get kicked around by the establishment for a while and then be forgotten. They already gave Bachmann a slap and it seems they're getting ready to give Palin one.(With her, all they have to do is turn off the money spigot) They've already consumed Rand Paul, and the most severe loonies lost. The ones that did get in will learn to tow the party line soon enough.
It never became more than a sideshow.
Which worked to an extent. The could have won the Senate if they would have routed out the crazies from the outset. I think they even tried, but didn't want to risk coming off as too cannibalistic.
What I fear is what they might dream up next.
In a weird wonkish way, this election was good for the left in terms of the long game. Most of the dems that lost were of the "blue dog" variety. They formed a bloc that was very difficult for the establishment democrats to work with. Which, if they play it right, could strengthen their hand for the big election in two years.


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