I would like to do a piece on my blog, Releasing Religion, regarding mixing God & government.  And I'd like to know what opinions people have here about doing such a thing.  Some points to mention are:

Glenn Beck is well known for arguing that we have misunderstood that founding fathers & their desire to keep church & state separate.  Holding his rally on 8/28, he gathered 150.000 people to hear him talk about bringing out country "back to God".  What do you think it would do to our country to "get back to God"? 

The Tea Party has been called racist Chrisotcrats. In their recent convention, most conference sessions began with prayers.  What do you think of the Tea Party?  Do you know very little about them?  Do you know a lot?  Please share your thoughts here.

The piece will be posted on www.releasingreligion.blogspot.com

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That would be an unexpected twist now, wouldn't it, Larry? I would love to see that happen.

So most of the conservatives I'm asking about the Tea Party are insisting that it doesn't have anything to do with racism, and not even with God, so much as with taxes. One person gave me a link to this article, which basically states that based on signs & interviews at a recent TP rally, they are steering clear of being anti-Obama & more anti-spending. What do you think?
Given the gnat-like memory and attention span of the US electorate, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a GOP-"led" Congress over the next two years sparked a left-wing counterinsurgency in 2012. I am still convinced that a Palin presidency is impossible. Well, Michael Palin, sure. But not Sarah. She sank McCain's bid, so I don't see how she could stand on her own.

I suspect the Teabaggers are trying pretty hard to downplay their racist and anti-intellectual leanings, though their chosen candidates don't seem terribly shy about playing the lunacy card. And yes, they are pushing the taxation = catastrophe angle. Nobody likes paying taxes, but the anti-taxers are the same crowd that like to bitch about how long it takes to renew your license at the DMV or for the police to respond to an emergency.

They're incapable of thinking in terms of large numbers. The services that they depend on are important, but they don't stop to think that there are over 300 million people in the US, all of whom need government services. As far as the Teabaggers are concerned, any government dollar not spent on them or on things they consider important are just wasted or fraudulent. That's not how a democracy works.
Well, I suppose we'll see. It's going to be interesting over the next couple of years seeing all this play out. I'll do my best to steer things left within my little sphere of influence.

re why the conservatives are "mad" - in my opinion it does't matter what the issue is. They'll get into a fury on ANYTHING that the right wing radio/tv televangelists tell them to.

I think it in our nature to get all riled up. Perhaps there is evem some evolutionary benefit. I can see how clan leaders might need to get their people fired up to kill a mammoth or to fight opposing tribes. I'm just thankful it doesn't work on me and many other thinking people.
Yeah, the right wingers get all cranky at Dems even when they are pushing something originally pushed by Republicans, like forcing people to buy health insurance to cut down on free riders. Part of Romneycare in Mass and championed by the GOP when they would occasionally have to give a soundbite about what health insurance reform should look like. Not that they were ever about to change it on their own, mind you.
So I just have to share this link with all of you, as it pertains to the TP and it made my husband and I laugh extremely hard tonight. Seems like Christine O'Donnell is the Dan Quayle of the Tea Party.
You're right, I'm sorry. I know I can't get from point A to point B without proper justification, but it is in the realm of possibility, and that's what makes it scary. Besides, that was a fear tactic which I already admitted to, and fear works on everyone at least for a little while and seems to be something our side rarely uses outside of facts as if facts weren't scary enough. It seems we aren't as motivated or as organized as the far right.
I think the A/N group is too rationale to let fear tactics take hold - at least among "us girls". Might be an effective tactice with the general populace - if you can reach them, and food luck with that. I do agree with you that the right is much greater at "framing" the issues than the left. It makes sense, though, these are the same people running busineses and ad/marketing campaigns. Manipulating the public with false messages is in their DNA.
Getting deep in it...

This is the general feeling Ive noticed. I never actually thought things would go this far...

If they knew what was good for them they wouldn't want any part of this. They cant fix it, they certainly don't have a cohesive plan and unless they can literally create a miracle then they are absolutely forked and now they will be bringing the GOP down with them. America is hardly in any mindset to trust Neo-cons again, no matter which clever guise they take. A con is a con...

Palin will never happen.<---period...
What the corporate "people" need is a good ass kicking like any other person that goes around being a jerk to other people. Where is the corporate persons ass located?
I think it is located in the pocketbook.
Same place as their little black hearts and their money-obsessed brains.
The Tea Party may have begun as a grass roots movement, but it was quickly recognized and coopted by the Rovian Republican Machine. Using Warren Buffet's media power and the Koch brothers money, the Rove machine began feeding them lies and misinformation, THAT THEY WERE WILLING AND WANTED TO BELIEVE. A lot of it is closet racism, such as in Obama is a radical muslim that worships with a radical back Christian preacher and a Socialist that propped up that damn banking system that could have collapsed with all of OUR money in it. The crap was thrown at the board and different shades of shiite stuck to the most receptive nutjob. They want to believe they have a chance for the American Dream, but believe it is the fault of the those that can't afford to educate their children or pay for healthcare that they pay these terrible taxes (the lowest tax rate in any industrialized nation, can we still call America that?). Nevermind that their children went to public school and they worked when insurance and medical treatment were affordable.


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